Social Democrat here

all of these doomsday predictions have 1 thing in common: they've all been wrong

I'm glad we agree. Extend this logic to every other working class movement in the the 20th century and congratulations, you're a communist.

those weren't all successful so no I am no

How they are wrong,can't you see?
Things are going shit…day by day

You already admitted that a movement doesn't have to be successful to be worth supporting and learning from. Now you're just being pedantic and illogical again.

what "things"
life is better now than it ever has been in human history.

no i didnt

Op thinks he can vote to a better tomorrow.
Lol tell me mr. bernie bro how that worked out?
Liberalism a disease, on
the core of our planet so go along casting your "vote"! The reason 20th century socailism turned out has it did was because NATO was always next door it had to be severely centralized to survive. Yet it accomplished what it took capitalist nations a full century to do a decade or 2. UncleSam WILL NEVER let you vote for a worker benifical society –→NEVER ←–! also your a entitled 1st worlder prick "muh Scandinavian model" well guess what they benifit greatly from imperialistic efforts of 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸NATO🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸. So yeah go along beinging fine that YOUR place is better for workers now, seems to me you couldn't give a fuck about those 4+ billion struggling every day from imperialism and neocolonialism!!!

Socdem policy is a delusional ideology were you make things better where you live. While you continue the exploitation of else were!!! internationalist communism is the only way ALL workers get a better life. The problems and there are many(though many are cold war propaganda so LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY) wont be a thing when the capitalist next door is gone!!! A libertarian socialist state is very much possible and already heavily layed out if you take the time to read into it. Read marx and read into all and every other far leftist readings then come back and tell us you half baked bullshit is adequate. YOU WONT youll either be a comrade or a no hope lib so which will it be, learn and see for yourself. If you really think your make my 1st world nation better fuck the rest ideology is the answer.

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But you can. That has been the case in every Social Democratic nation since their inceptions

Do you have any actual examples of Social Democratic nations benefiting more than just a marginal amount from what you consider "imperialism and neocolonialism?"

That's literally the goal of people's actions in the political realm

which exploitation?

maybe in theory but it hasn't been able to produce the same standard of living for the population as Social Democracy has, not even close.

the reality of this says differently.

2 things, first this implies you can trust the vote, for a place like America you can't.
Second try that in a non European country and watch as all of a sudden there precious minerials and oil need democracy, because because 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸NATO🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 feels there being oppressed.


Yeah the scandinavian countries they've literally like the rest of Europe bacame wealthy of imperialism. You saying marginal like they didnt help invade iraq?
Also marginal lol, you a marginal racist? im sure if its marginal its not a big deal liberals I swear.


user if I deny how capitalism makes 3rd world countries into sweat shop bitch states. I dont have to deal with the inherit inequality of capitalism.

maybe in theory but it hasn't been able to produce the same standard of living for the population as Social Democracy has, not even close.

The USSR did what england and the US did in a century in a few decades!!! since its fall there has been a drop in living standards and a rise in fascism worldwide. Again seems your bent on what socdem policy has done for European countries.


the reality of this says differently.

Did you miss the part were i mention international? I really think you dont understand the dynamics of NATO vs Warsaw pact! how that effected the state structure to be more centralized.