Remember how it is for a dialectical development. Both things are true following their own logic as a development from a certain axiom. Capitalism's axioms imply both overconsumption and want at the same time. It's a paradox in the sense that it is two competing branches of logic that defy one another's existence but both remain true so long as the axiom generating them as true still holds. You can point out why paradoxes happen in math. You can point out why they happen in society too, for the same reason
Comrades, this is a bit off topic...
Michael Williams
Michael Roberts
Or, here, let's take another one. The arguments on minimum wage raises as good for the economy are true, and so are the arguments that they are bad for the economy. They cannot simultaneously be true, but both are logical developments from the axioms of liberal capitalism, and so long as we retain those axioms, both are true and when put into practice we truly do see unpredictable, contradictory results.
Jason Lee
I really like your posts, but these are the same thing.
Charles Roberts
The food directed towards the obesity epidemic is directed away from starving people towards the more profitable market, where it can stay and be speculated on rather than distributed fairly and maintain a larger profit than the high risk low reward third world, and the people are homeless because investors are worth more than housing people. Their furniture is heated purely because it's a way to extract more rent.
Blake Mitchell
Yes i know. They're just instances of a contradiction. Russell's Paradox isn't ``the'' contradiction in naive set theory, it's an instance off it
Cooper Harris
I had similar episode which developed into localized Schizophrenia while studying foundation of mathematics long time ago.
Unfortunately I was still lolbert ancap back then so my visions were more 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸LAND🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸ian solutions.
What I wanted to add is that, dialectic process is not closed form of calculation that allows you to refer unique omega from alpha. Two mutually exclusive "Axioms" can be proposed to resolve undecidable proposition maybe you are confounding undecidability and paradox… will try to come up with better examples and you can have two distinct, compact systems of logic from that point onward.
What will prevent jaded youth to uncritically support fascist movement "that just werks" without strong class consciousness and leftist theory?
Sebastian Long
Alright well this is starting to make me nervous, the psychotic nature of recursion that is dripping from AnComs posts resonates with me and I've worried about schizophrenia before. Is localised schizophrenia dangerous?
James Carter
unlike computers that can run out of memory to allocate for stack, human mind tends to react in very erratic way when dealing with recursion and I am not memeing when I say studying formal logic to some degree is psychological hazard.
Stay away from the internet as often as possible, try to talk to real people, do manual labour that exhaust you so your mind does not descend too deep
Gabriel Cox
I work at a factory doing manual labor aassembling plastic parts. I have nothing to me but my own thoughts for hours at a time.
Two mutually exclusive "Axioms" can be proposed to resolve undecidable proposition maybe you are confounding undecidability and paradox… will try to come up with better examples
I get it, yeah.
That's what I think a lot of communists and especially Marxists miss.
We do not know what is going to happen after revolt because it is a total unmaking of the rules of the world. We might still land in a different realm that is incomprehensible to us just buy being a new world with new rules, or worse, we might just fall into the Abyss.
Eli Martinez
eh, at least confine yourself to well defined realm of mathematics while you are wage slaving then. I am most intellectually productive during those time of the day too as my mind is willing to do literally anything else.