Yeah basically, in the beginning it was essentially a way to wash american pro corporate conservatism, with a patina of "liberty", by acknowledging some problems that some middle class people face (taxation on small business, dude weed, etc) and saying the market will fix it, and that freedoms come from property rights which convinced all sorts of middle class, and upper lower class people to fall for it, not knowing any other alternative to status quo politics. Propaganda in the early days was HEAVILY funded by corporate interests as well. Libertarianism falls apart almost immediately in like the most basic of thought experiments, so they ran with the right wing values, or even just memes and became alt-right, sometimes as a reaction to commies opposing the bedrock of their ideology (property). Sometimes they really liked what Pinochet did and realized that he isn't different to most right wing dictators, or Trump because he is a business man who they consider a "winner" or they were a talking head libertarian like Dave Rubin, or any number of Koch funded "jounalists" and "professors". Some honestly did run with the liberty aesthetics and found leftism (usually anarchism) because liberation was more a goal instead of property rights.
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Honestly it's a middle class movement of small business owners and "Dude weed lmao" guys, with kiddie diddlers and Pinochet worshipers thrown in the mix
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I know I'm super high Autism Level because I've never been a libertarian. Since childhood I dabbled in radical marxist thought, I also had an anprim phase, an elitist technocratic neoliberal phase, Aristocratic Monarchist phase, deep conspiracy research phase, a Nazbol phase a Maoist phase etc but I always from the start thought libertarianism was the dumbest shit it feels like it's an "ideology" cobbled together by executives at Mcdonalds and Burger King and it's probably true.
The first political stance I remember I had was when I was 7 and I asked my parents why do we even have money it's unnecessary because people could just give things away and get along.
Read the book True Believer. To jump between these extremes indicates that you don't actually hold any of these views very honestly. Figure out what your ideology really is by looking at your values. What's important? What really needs to be fixed? What does a good society look like? Here's the thing: Anarcho-Syndicalists, Marxist-Leninists, and Progressive Social Democrats may absolutely despise each other, but they actually share most of the same values, and agree on a lot of the problems in society. They just disagree radically on how those things should be fixed. But to jump from one thing to its literal polar opposite, especially on values, shows a shallowness.
Why is that, though? I think anarcho-capitalism inevitably leads to fascism because the whole point of government, or in the case of anarchism, councils, is to put a democratic mechanism in social organization. If you make everything dictated by industry, then everything is authoritarian and dictated by the heads of industry. But I assumed that obvious truth was beyond anarcho-capitalists.
Decades ago, right wing libertarians had a sort of loose friendship with the anti-authoritarian left, and social anarchists like Murray Bookchin were even invited to speak at Libertarian Party events. At my most generous, I almost came to see ancaps as individualist anarchists with bad economics. But now it's become clear that anarcho-capitalists are basically fascists. Suddenly they're racist, misogynistic, ironically theocratic, and openly fantasizing about genocide and "throwing people out of helicopters." And maybe this isn't so suddenly after all, given Ron Paul's history of racism.
The whole thing's just weird.
And now he went radlib, pretty sure he’ll go back to his old ways again.
they aren't really extremes tho you can synthesize into a technocratic socialist state ruled by extremely based high autism level philospher kings (aristocrats) trained for it since childhood in special government training camps. I know it would never happen but it is the ideal form of government.
BadMouse is fucking weird. There's something about him that doesn't click with me. Perhaps not to the extent Non-compete doesn't click, but still. He generally seems kinda confused politically (and not only politically).