What went wrong?

If France wasn't a republic this bullshit war would have never happened. They had no loyalty to royal houses of Europe.

It always comes back to the French Revolution. Every problem of the modern era. All from that one mistake.

That's correct. Russia was catching up pretty fast which made German High Command very nervous. After all, the military had a lot of influence over Kaiser Willy. Personally he may had opposed the war. However, his generals were looking for an excuse to pick a bone with Russia sooner rather than later. The prospect of railroads spanning from the Far East up to the Congress Poland was pretty terrifying for the German High Command. Imagine moving men and material from the Siberian frontier to European battlefields in a matter of weeks instead of months. For Germany to dominate the European affairs and emerging as the leading superpower the United Kingdom had to be isolated, France had to be greatly weakened and Russia had to be dismantled into a couple of constantly bickering, smaller and easier to control nations. Hence why, German government was very interested in promoting Belorussian, Ukrainian and Lithuanian national identities.

And they did again in the 90's by promoting Croatian identity to destroy Heksagonale because it left germany out of the role of being a major geopolitical player
And now they're doing that again with attempts to destroy the intermarium

Modernization is what screwed them. They became a lucrative place for rootless exploiters AFTER they boosted their industry and introduced degenerate social practices like shaving their beards.

It's the same as every war on balkans.

1. Someone in Serbia did something bad, or is said to have done so.
2. An offended foreign power asked complete control over the country so it can place military troops everywhere and capture the culprit.
3. Serbia thought that was a Big Ask^ and counterproposed a joint investigation giving foreign investigators every cooperation.
4. Then they get destroyed in a war while valiantly fighting for their sovereignty.

Because Serbs thought the big ask was a Big Ask^, when in reality it was just the prelude for an invasion. The first thread to manufacture a cassus belli, and the invasion had absolutely fuck all to do with Serbia.
Austria and Germany wanted to contrive a reason to capture all the formerly Ottoman held territory. Who knows, maybe if they had their coal and oil, it would have given them the edge they needed to win the inevitable WWII as well.
Compare in 1990s, every Euro power was kicking out American bases because the cold war was over, and the deep state despots wanted a place to put their bases in Europe. Omg y u hurt dose muslims!

^ Big ask is the opening to a negotiation, when one side makes a ridiculous request. The other side then makes a more realistic request, and they haggle.

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Read this.

Rome and China were civilisation in the sense Spenger uses the word. That is, a formless mass of people with a dead culture, ruled over by an imperial bureaucratic machine. Of course there is nothing but red tape and stagnation. Western Europe and the USA are already in this process, but it's not yet complete. I think Russia's bureaucrats were close to Japanese samurai once the later became glorified bureaucrats. That is, they were reliable servants "bred" for this purpose.

Are you high? The last thing Austria-Hungary needed was even more Slavs, and Germany was more interested both in Mitteleuropa and more overseas colonies. AH was worried because Russia clearly wanted to Balkans for herself, and did everything to stop them. It's not even an exaggregation to say that Serbia in that time was a Russian puppet.

Austria already moved to take territories formerly belonging to Ottomans. The Hapsburgs thought these territories "belonged" to them because they single handedly vanquished the turks, or something silly like that.

Look at that map. Russia would have to go through Romania to get to territory it wanted. Were there any overtures made to Romania or Bulgaria or Greece or fucking anyone? Meanwhile we know for a fact that Austria made overtures to Bulgaria and the Turks, and Serbia was in the fucking way.

But your statement bothers me for more reason than just being incorrect. For example if Russia actually wanted to form a union with Serbia…. So what? Why would that worry Austria if they didn't want it? Austria and Germany already had massive borders with Russia, why the hell would having an extra few miles of borders with a Russian ally worry them?? In terms of borders it's like America getting mad because Canada wants to conquer Cuba.

What territories, other than Bosnia? True what is true, they together with Italy created Albania, but it was still more of an Italian project. As for Bosina, it was all about cockblocking the Russians.
It sounds like you aren't familiar with this subject at all. Their only claim was for the kingdom of Hungary, because they managed to get the throne in the 16th century. And it is a whole separate subject on its own, as it is the history of Hungary. I know about no serious claims for any lands in the Balkans by the Habsburgs.

First of all, they already annex a part of what will later turn into Romania:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessarabia
And adding the rest of those territories wouldn't have been a problem for Russia, as it was already quite the multiculti place. But even without those lands, they have access to the Black Sea, and sailing up in the Danube to Serbia is a trivial feat. Not to mention that direct annexation isn't even needed, as Serbians were more than willing to further Russian interests as it was.
What the hell do you mean by overtures in this context?
How is it incorrect?
That's a rather passive-aggressive and feminine tone. In other words, you type like an angry bitch. But to answer your question: Russia clearly had imperial ambitions, and Panslavism and the "defence" of orthodox Christianity were two of their main idegologic justifications for them. Austira-Hungary had lots of Slavic populations of various sizes and faiths, just compare the map of that "empire" with the map of Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. The Balkans might not have been a particularly rich place, but it was full of relatively reliable people living in an easily-defensible area. Therefore I'd say the fears of AH weren't unjustified.

As the only actual knower here I'll answer: literally everything. The empire was overburdened with most of the geographical, economical, ethnic, social problems you could ever imagine.

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Nigger wut? Your commie detector needs some calibration.

lol

That one line was enough to know what you're going to say in the rest of the comment. All you have is fictional innuendo "Russia might have wanted to do something", meanwhile Austria annexes Bosnia for no fucking reason in 1908. I put the weight of annexation above that of mysterious rumors.

The funniest part is that you're a Hungary flag. Your people rebelled against Austria in 1848, and Russia invaded you to quell the rebellion, and gave your country over to Austria. So on my side of the argument I actually have Russia holding Austrian territory in its complete control, and still deciding to not keep it, to bolster my argument that Russia wanted fuck all to do with Austria. Meanwhile all you have is innuendo lol.

Hungary, Greece, Albania, Bulgaria and Romania weren't Slavic, and Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia and Czechoslovakia weren't Orthodox. Even using your criteria, of the lands Russia wanted, only Serbia and Montenegro fit the fucking bill. Meanwhile domestically Russia was falling apart, and no threat to anyone.

The final verdict: Austria and Germany pre-emptively destroyed Europe before teh ebulz Russia even thought of it.

Euromongrel multiculti clusterfuck of krauts, slavs and mongyars.

It never had a chance.

That's not an answer. And if you refuse to answer this question, then I must assume that you don't have anything, and this is just empty posturing to hide it.
All I have is things like the May Coup, or how the leaders of the Black Hand knew that their little stunt will lead to a war between AH and Serbia, and that Russia will most likely mobilize to protect Serbia. Meanwhile you denounce my words as "fictional innuendo", completely ignoring the realpolitik of the time.
It looks like you've never heard of the Treaty of Berlin either. AH was occupying Bosnia since the 1880s, in accordance with that treaty, and the annexation was part of the diplomatic game.
In other words, you your story over the will of the actors of the time. E.g. it's no secret that Russia wanted control over the Straits of Constantinople, yet you'd tell me that this is not important as Russia never managed to actually gain control of the straits.
These are not my "criteria", it's a fact that Russia used both panslavist and orthodox Christian propaganda. E. g. the Czech might not be orthodox, but the first panslavist conferency was held in Prague, and during ww1 many Czech preferred to join the ranks of the Russians.
According to you, but not according to the leaders of AH. And their perception is much more important when we discuss what happened back then. Not to mention that the Russian elite clearly didn't know that their country is falling apart and isn't a threat to anyone, as they were quite happy to join the fun that quickly turned into the first world war.

If you honestly believe that this is how it went, then you clearly never heard of the Holy Alliance of Prussia, Russia and Austria. You are also not familiar with the war of 1848-49 either.
Between 1848 and 1914 there was 56 years, that's at very least two whole generations. The geopolitics of Europe were completely different. It's like saying that West Germany wanted to overrun the collapsing USSR in 1992, because they lost ww2 46 years prior.

>The final verdict: Austria and Germany pre-emptively destroyed Europe before teh ebulz Russia even thought of it. I am historically illiterate.
FTFY

So did Serbs ruin everything again?

Many things. None of them was fatal by itself, but they happened simultaneously.
+ internal tensions due to moving from agricultural feudalism to industrial capitalism
+ incompetence of bureaucracy and state security
+ stress of WWI
+ incompetence of autocrat
Had Russian Empire avoided participation in WWI as much as possible (even if that meant fucking up international relations) - it would survive.
Had transition to constitutional monarchy happened before shitshow started - it would survive.
Had emperor did his job properly, either by balancing interests of nobility and masses, or by drowning protest in blood - it would survive.

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Should've avoided the Russo-Japanese War too.

Romanovs deserved it.

Corruption of the nobles is what happened.
The ВОДКА prohibition happened.
They had to fall, because of how corrupted they were.
They had to fall, because of the economical crysis.
They had to fall, because they have been striked by wall street funded group, that then took power, and did even worste than the Tsar.

Read Tolstoy if you want to know more about the condition of the people, and about the level of corruption of the power. Read Antony Sutton if you want to know more about the funding of the communist parties.

The so called "reforms" that he had to conduct, is the same "reforms" that try to implement the french king Louis XVI before his fall: It was actually the destruction of his power, and temporary trade-off to maintain himself as much as he can. But (((they))) did not wanted him to be maintained. (((They))) wanted all the power. In fact, Louis XVI has to be maintained, like in UK, under a constitutional monarchy. But Louis XVI actually refused it, and asked for help from other monarchy in europe, in exchange of lands. The freemasons decided then, in a FM congress in 1786, to kill him. Then you know what happened to his head.

Freemasons ideas, then contaminated the whole europe.

Indeed. It's because it's the root of the freemason power. It's the direct overthrown of the power by them, and then the direct deception, and enforcement of their philosophy (The liberalism, Descartes rationalism, atheism, anticlericalism, positivism etc..), that then have contaminated the whole europe, and certainly the Tsar reign. Even though Russia fell because of the same corruption and Louis XIV style of reign with "La cour", where the noble were concentrated, and were highly immoral.

"A fish rot by the head". If the elite of any power get corrupted, then everything falls.

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How do you avoid a war started by another country when they sneak attack your naval base?

Mad they told you couldn't sell vodka on credit anymore or banished you to the pale?

No.

Austria Hungary was about to cease to exist on it's own because of how poorly managed it was. Germany was lead by kaiser wilhelm who was an idealist not pragmatic which is why he lead his nation to total ruin by allying with the dying austrians. Had he been intelligent he would have never provoked the Brits by attempting colonies and a navy and then arranged to partition the austrian empire in a war like Prussia had done Poland.

Because they are hyper aggressive slavs living in a location that converges western, Russian, and Islamic cultures. So when Serbs attack people like Croats the Croats look at the west and ask for help. This causes a shitshow effect of a large war starting from a small war. the worst case scenario is essentially ww1 where Serbs draw 3-4 major powers into a conflict with each other over a dead archduke.

Burger education.

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Because there was a very real chance of the Russian Empire becoming a superpower if they managed to win WW1 and gained a bunch of territory, and certain forces on earth wouldn't allow an Orthodox Christian superpower in the world.

Jews.

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Should Nicholas have allied Germany instead of France?

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It was idiotic to ally with France- the same people who not too long ago invaded Russia and almost conquered it until the serfs and grandfather winter routed them out, the same France that a few decades before had used military force to prevent Russia from getting a colony in Africa in modern-day Djibouti (look up Sagallo). That ontop the the fact that France was the one that prevented Russia from liberating Constantinople because "muh cathlicks" (who are heretics).

If they managed to work out an different central powers (Germany, Austria-Hungary, China (preferably with an intact Qing Dynasty somehow) and Russia- fuck the Ottoman cocksuckers)- we would be living in a very different and much better world.

BTW I'm not a leaf, I'm just using a VPN.

Austro-Hungary, The German Empire and the Russian Empire had been allies some years before. I forget the specific details of how that fell apart, but if I remember correctly it was of course a bunch of long noses and the inevitable british meddling.

I'm a Monarchist myself so I definitely feel sympathetic for the Central Powers (except for the Ottomans because of all the genocide, fuck them). Did you know that the King of Britain specifically denied Saint Nicholas II asylum? Really makes you think as to why…

The League of the Three Empires. It fell apart because Austria-Hungary and Russia couldn't get along. Bismarck then signed a treaty with Russia guaranteeing neutrality with each other. When Wilhelm II came to power he dismissed Bismarck so Bismarck's plan to keep France isolated, especially from Russia, fell apart.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinsurance_Treaty

Add to that the usual French bitterness and salt (this time over Alsace Lorraine).

Also I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but basically every major European power wanted war, because they thought it was inevitable. Add to that the growing insecurity of Britain over Germany's increasing naval power, along with everything else mentioned here, and you basically have a recepie for disaster.

Judeo Bolshevik kikery is what happened

the murder of the Tsar and his family was ritual jewish murder

Reinforce the naval base before hand?

Why ally Austria over Russia?

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By not attempting to expand in a region you lack proper power projection.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Stefano

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Disraeli

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A bunch of middle class rich leftist kids decided to take it upon themselves to liberate the people from oppression. Somehow they came up with explosive package and somehow they managed to actually use it efficiently. You'd usually expect a limp-wristed gun attack, even back then.

Funny how commies fucked up russia beyond repair because they killed one person/one family.
Not really it's sad as fug

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My best guess is because of cultural reasons. Since the Austrian aristocracy and German Junkers shared a similar language and general customs, it facilitated easier diplomacy compared to the Russians which are more alien in both respects.
One could also argue geography in that Austria would be easier to assist in times of conflict over Russia which had the potential have wars which could span to the far-east, see the Japanese-Russo war, which would make providing assistance much more difficult.

Another factor is how Kaiser Wilhelm and the German general staff saw Russia as threat, where as Austria was not. Due to the potential of Russian military and economic abilities overshadowing Germany's in both respects. They went with the weaker horse, in Austro-Hungary, since it was less likely to buck them off, and just whither and die.

Nigger, Gavrilo Princip was working on behalf of Mlada Bosna, which was a Yugoslavian unity movement seeking to, primarily, remove the Austro-Hungarians from Bosnia, the serbs actually had nothing to do with it. He was a Bosnian serb, and the blame was shifted onto the Crna Ruka, because Princip had tried to join them, but was literally too much of a manlet to be admitted.

We sure as shit did try, but the UN didn't really give a damn until the kebab started getting removed. They sent some blue helmets to die, and hit an airfield in the RSK, purely to to allow them to help the kebab later.

More internal issues than you could imagine, monarchy was also on it's way out in the 21st century and the government was inept at handling many situations. They essentially fed fuel to the fire of communism with bloody sunday and other such things, and that led distrust and wish for change in government.

the tsar wasn't even there that day though

Your missing the point. When Serbia cries to Russia, when Croatia cried to Germany, and when Bosnians cry to Turks they all took some sort of action. These much larger powerful nations get involved and will almost certainly be pitted against each other. It's legit not even about any of you it's about you being a focal point for other people's interests.

Nicholas was wilhelms cousin and most the Russian aristocracy was German to some degree and spoke French as a first language.

Because clearly middle class kids can win a civil war all on there own.

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In contrast to what? Maybe a century of niggers will convince you of the flaw of that argument.
Slavs are white, often even ginger and green eyed, or blonde and blue eyed. That's good enough for me.

This is left out of every Hungarian and Austrian history book by the way.

I don't have to answer a statement as dumb as "AH annexted nothing… except the one country."

Wrong faggot. Assasination of Ferdinand had fuck all to do with Serbs.

No. Instead of basing conclusions on subjective judgement of some random hyperbiased hairy hungarian troll on the internet about what the "will" of a government consisting of hundreds of thousands of people that lived a century ago with all filed burned to the ground in two world wars was…. I'm going to base conclusions on what HAPPENED.

The fuck does this have to do with AH which is 1000 km away from the black sea? Do you mean the part where AH sided with turks and stabbed Russia in the back, despite Russians sending their boys to die in a war to protect the Hapsburgs from traitorous Hungarians?

Yes you are.

And so how was it then that England ended up fucking Germany eventually instead of Russia? I understand the logistical restraints but assume there is more to it. Was England amicable towards Russia during the war?

Great thread yall much appreciated.

England disliked and wanted to dismantle both Russia and Germany so the outcome of the war was satisfactory to the English. Why do you think they didnt offer aid to Tsar Nicholas when he was being held by the revolutionary government?

Russian royalty and nobility for the most part weren't even slavic by blood. Among the nobility the Russian language was considered to be barbaric and unelegant. Many preferred to communicate with each other in French, so as to show off their superior education, and pretty much all of them spoke French as a second language.

Weren't the original Rus people germanophones?

If you want to talk about nobles, talk about the calling of the princes.

Meanwhile common people call germans немецкий from *němъ for "mute” because they couldn't speak other languages. And "slovene" means lettered man, as in 'we've got written language y'all."

Yes, I don't know where he's getting french from.

It's well known that European nobility commonly spoke French.

whoops, NOT killing them when they had the chance*.

They were much to the chagrin of modern slavs. Peter the great Ivan the terrible and all of the notable tsars modelex themselves heavily on the German kingdoms culture and customs the term tsar was picked by Ivan to imitate the Germans Kaiser and Peter introduced the Rank structure in Russian nobility to mimick the holy Roman empire.

Technically Franks were a germanic people.

All monarchs must die. As an American, I have a natural distrust for them.

Yes but my question remains unanswered. Of course neither were true allies and (((Britain))) always wanted the continent divided into weakened powers. Now, it was stated that Wilhelm wished to gain more favor with the British. Why ally with Russia and not Germany? Then stage the Red Cross/Schiff/Warburg takeover in Germany? We could've seen Hitler rise from Russia if you follow. After a failed coup there as it happened in Weimar. Did the British fear a victorious German ally more than a victorious Russian ally? Why? Both would be severely weakened even after victory, as was the case with Russia.

I dunno man, they did sell us that absolutely gorgeous state of Alaska for absolutely nothing. Me thinks they're not too bad when left to their own and removing merchant. See the thing is when they don't bother you they aren't a problem.

It's hilarious to compare how lax exile to Siberia or prison was under the tsar to the gulags and prisons under the Soviets, which prided itself on being "humane".

Germany was set to outpace British industrial production and seize upon Ottoman discontent with their position in the world to gain access to Middle Eastern oil, as well as Wilhelm wanting a colonial empire and accidentally shitposting about everyone in Europe in a newspaper interview he expected to be off-the-record right before the war.

Being American doesn't create that feeling in your nature. Being European does. You have European blood do you not? That determines your nature. We are wired to respect meritocratic authority more than aristocratic authority. You'd respect an aristocrat who was truly worth his salt. Who proved it to you. Your ancestors who came here didn't necessarily do so because they had any more disgust for monarchy. There's multitudes of reasons.

I would honestly agree with this and every deeply patriot American I have ever met would to if they think about it. The aristocrats we worship are the founding fathers and if Washington was so inclined he could have been king and no one would have tried to stop him.

The only reason slavs don't like germany in the present day is that since 1990 germany has been fag central. During the cold war they respected and liked them. Then during WWII they hated germans. Then before WWI they were ok with them…. It's a love hate history dating back to when germans thought it would be fun to row up a river and steal a bunch of slav farmers daughters.

Eh? You aren't aware most Russians are descended from varangians? In myth, Slav people held a big zbor (pow wow) of all slav tribes back during hun invasions and decided to invite viking mercenaries to be their kings.
Only downside was that Germans turn into absolutely insane maniacs if they inbreed even a little.

I'm actually of the opinion that much of slav genetic stock is the same as Germans before proto slavs spread out and came to dominate eastern Europe that land was populated almost entirely by Goths burgundians and sarmatians the remnants of these people who survived the hunnic invasion were absorbed by the slavs. Then in the middle ages Vikings settled the land and formed the aristocracy of the Rus. Then from the 1500's until the modern period eastern Europe's nobility was almost entirely interchangeable with German nobility.

They sold it for personal gain and fucked their own people in the process. No man should tolerate a monarch to rule him.

Yeah, I might have European ancestry, but seeing as how cucked and retarded Europeans are, I'd never like to share in their feelings. America is special, different from the rest. And while I might respect an aristocrat, I certainly wouldn't let him rule over my by merit of birth. The Mexicans had it right when they shot Maximilian in the face.

Everything about the US from it's goverment form to its rule of law religion and the language you speak are from Europe. America is a European colony it was when we started to disconnect ourselves from that understanding that everything went to shit.

Man, they had to pay for the Crimean war as well as reforms that abolished serfdom and gave those folk their freedom. The only thing that got fucked was the Russian-American company in that deal but at that point it wasn't much of a company.

Found the passage I was thinking of from the Gulag Archipelago by Solzhenitsyn.

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for passages, and back in Canada he began life all over again as a hired hand on a farm.]

Tsar Nicholas II did nothing wrong, also
tsarizm.com/news/2017/11/28/ritual-killing-probe-murder-tsars-family-spotlights-old-anti-semitic-conspiracy-theory/

Yeah, no. If I wanted to be like Europe, I'd vote Democrat. Fuck that.

Aristocrats are people who have wealth and privilege because there great great great grandfather did something. Personally in my onion people should only achieve high social standing and privilege based on there own accomplishments. The aristocrats also treated the commoners pretty bad. During the Russian Revolution the Russian people knew exactly what they were getting into when they supported the Bolsheviks. Think of how bad of a system it would be in order for you to prefer Communism. That’s aristocrats for you. The French did the right thing by killing them.

They trusted Jews.

You need to leave

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The French killed the aristocracy in exchange for the merchants. Not really much of a benefit.

You sound like a retarded slavaboo or a butthurt Slav. I think it's the former, because you don't even know that Bulgaria is a Slavic country.

By your own logic Russia is the big bad evil here, because they annexed (and not annexted) Bessarabia. But you conveniently ignore that. At least read fucking wikipedia articles if you are too lazy to get some history books.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_crisis#Exchange_of_letters
Now tell me that the Russian foreign minister of the time had nothing to do with Russia.

Wrong, faggot. You are supposed to put a comma here.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_(Serbia)#Assassination_of_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand

Now, you will point at the part where it says it was not aproved by the Serbian Government. But do you know what else wasn't approved by the Serbian Government? The May Coup, which you conviniently ignored.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Coup_(Serbia)
And again:

Do you honestly believe that Apis and co had no connection to the Russian secret services of the time?

Turning your attention towards decades old conclusions drawn by historians is hardly subjective judgement.
We are on an anonymous message board, not being random would be the real insult, you non-random faggot.
I'm not the one going on about how Slavs are hwite, without knowing that without Scandinavian conquerors there would be no Russia, or being surprized that by the 19th century the average Russian noble spoke French. You again proved your ignorance on even more subjects.
Are you a hairless sissyboy? That would explain why you are so obsessed with that big Russian bear, you lil' fuckboi.
And you also have no idea what trolling means.
You evidently don't know how governments work, because properly working governments do have a collective will, and that collective will is shaped by the people at the very top. Especially if said governments are headed by an autocratic ruler, like an emperor.
We can draw the profile of historically significant people who lived ten centuries ago, or maybe even more.
But they didn't, and even then we have a significant amount of accounts from the time, therefore we can figure out what happened for the most part, and make educated guesses based on the available information. You are on the side of the jews who say the holohoax happened they say it happened, and they just can't prove it because the gnadzees burned all the "documents" that could prove them right.
It's actually closer to 800km, but much more importantly it's part of the explanation as to why they wanted control over the Balkans, other than the land and the people. Again, you don't seem to be familiar with the realpolitik of the time.
Wait, what? The next conflict in the region after 1848-49 was the Crimean war, in which the French and British sided with the Ottomans against Russia. So then, why did Russia fought on the same with the French and the British against the Ottomans in ww1?
Again, you know nothing about the Holy Alliance, or the war of 1848-49.

Don't try to insult others if you don't have anything to insult them with, you hairless slavaboo faggot.

You're all morons ignorant of Russian history.

While the commonly accepted legend states that Rurik and co were Swedish, it's highly disputed due to it being just that, a legend that was only written down hundreds of years later. So I would say, yes you are correct, but that is highly irrelevant, since we are talking about the Romanov dynasty which came much later, not to mention Peter I's reforms which thoroughly westernized the country and radically changed it's culture.

This is correct and not correct at the same time. Allow me to explain. In ye olde times, when the Slavs were a single nation, they called pretty much all foreigners niemtsi, much like the Greeks called all foreigners Barbaroi, which indeed means mutes, and for Germans this name simply stuck around. Slavs did not have a written language, their name comes from the word "slovo" which means "word", in other words, the world was divided into "people that speak" and "mutes". That is as far as that goes.

After Peter I's reforms, French became the fashionable language of the educated, while Russian was the language of the poorfag commoners.

Where are you getting this from?

You cannot imagine how funny your post looks since "rosy" was a Byzantium word for vikings assimilated in Kyiv.

Lel, even French people started to form a single nation no earlier than during Louis XI, not to mention separated Slavs.

Slavs were a collection of tribes that spoke a single language. I would say that does qualify as a single nation my protoukr friend.

Maybe it's highly disputed among some local stormfags making up Obotriti theories. It's well-knows from plenty of sources elites in that time consisted of Slavs mixed with immediately assimilated vikings taking Slavic names and paganism.
It was well after him, he itself was a dutch-germanfag.

There wasn't really a single language. So basically you're claiming Slavs did melt into a single nation centuries before even those lucky French? Well, ok then, it's stupid but I'm too flattered to disagree anyways.

well-known*

Oh shi, i'm sorry for being so blind. Your post is ok, I've just read it first without glasses as a "germanophobes" kek. My apologies.