Richard Rodgers is to blame for both ruby ridge and waco, he participated in both as "hostage negotiator". The title of negotiators has the power to override the site commander if the negotiator believes hostages are in danger. This is because the negotiator is kind of like a translator between the inside and outside of the crisis zone, which gives them IMMENSE power to confuse and fuck up situations. In both disasters, Rodgers overrode the site commander and sent in armed teams to provoke the situation MULTIPLE TIMES before a straw broke the camels back and the situation went to shit. He ordered the gas attack on Waco, and he ordered the canisters fired into flammable areas of the building which set the fire, not to mention that tear gas in a confined space can easily kill a child. The AG who was a Clinton Democrat even told him not to use tear gas. historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=richard_rogers_1 Rodgers overrode the attorney general and slaughtered 72 men women and children.
Basically ATF and FBI were just thugs who followed procedure and trusted the wrong people. The real agency to blame is HRT, specifically one retard from this agency who everyone trusted. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostage_Rescue_Team
Like I said, I'm not the only anti-lib Canuck.
Christian Hernandez
There is much more to it than that. And, they put a guy like Rodgers in that position for a reason.
Congress and Clinton bear a great deal of the responsibility in the end. Without their unconstitutional "laws", that situation never happens, without Clintons' (Reno et. al. played parts too) orders, maybe nobody dies.
The ATF could have grabbed Koresh outside the 'compound' if they wanted, but instead felt it necessary to try to be door kickers on a capture kill mission with a bunch of heretics out in the middle of nowhere. Then, the bosses pushed the no-compromise stance to force compliance on the gun regulations and teach everybody a lesson when they dared to resist. 'See what happens when you don't submit to mah authoritah?!'. They don't want armed groups unless they're following their orders.
Colton Martinez
Congress hasn't forced a bill through for Cucknold Drumf to sign. Yet. So far it's just individual governors cucking out and following the alpha cuck by stabbing their voters in the back.
Joseph James
I know. The point is that the beginning of repression doesn't start from the top down, it starts from the bottom up. Same is true when a civilization gets repaired, it doesn't start from the top down. The large growth of wealth beginning in 1700s didn't happen as a result of a law, or a government decision, it started on an individual level. The constitution isn't a document that grants freedom, the people of America fought for those freedoms on an individual level for 200 years before a piece of paper listed the freedoms that already existed. Ergo you can't trust said piece of paper to protect your freedoms either, nor does any modification of it have bearing towards you. It just informs you what your ancestors had, it's your choice whether or not you want to have the same things and how hard you're willing to fight for them.
Even LAWS are optional to follow under common law system. If enough people break a law, and enough people practice jury nullification, the law is basically struck from the books. You just need to have the backbone to refuse, and deal with the potential arrest, trial, sentence that follows.
Carter Adams
Or, NBC became chesscucks.
Aiden Jones
And I meant 'you' as in plural you, ihr. It's not my fault that English second person singular and plural are the same. I didn't invent the bloody thing.