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Because it doesn't really rob them of work if you look at the whole economy. Automation reduces costs, which is increases the amount of disposable income people have available. More disposable income means consumers purchase save more and purchase more goods, which requires producers to expand their facilities to meet demand. That expansion takes the form of hiring more people, and as a result automation leads to a net increase of jobs in the economy.


Oh, I'm well aware of that, I don't dispute it. Automation doesn't have the same effect, however.

Yes but machines don't play on emotions of the softhearted in the population to get freed of the factory, and then run around for 100 years raping and murdering the most honest and decent people in your society.


No.

A murderer is hanged on a tree to show everyone that, although he faced someone in battle and won, this battle was not sanctioned by the community and is a detriment to good order. His crime is displayed to passers-by to show that such an act is not permissible.

A faggot is put in a wooden cage and thrown into a swamp, where the executioner will press with his foot on the cage until it sinks completely. This is because the sin of faggotry is so terrible, that a community should not even acknowledge its presence.

Friendly reminder that Ian must hang from the highest possible tree or pole for being an AntiFaggot and anti-white.

And that's not mentioning the fact that machines make stuff cheaper, whether its food, bullets or transportation. That means quality of life goes up for them and everyone else, since people can afford shit that was previously priced through the ceiling. Even if they have to deal with the shitty experience of losing a job and looking for a new one.


Problems with niggers aren't the same as problems with automation.

Let's see what happens if we replace but a single word.
Of course you can claim that they did expand their facilities, they just did it in the countries where those facilities are located. But what makes you think that the expansion of facilities will lead to the creation of new jobs for people, when they can just use their profits to increase automatization even more?

And again.

That only works if the place you outsource it doesn't place tariffs or sanctions on imports from your country.

For example:
1. Chinese workers can't make laptops, but can make cellphones
2. We outsource making a cellphone to China
3. American customers get cheaper cellphones
4. All the Americans who worked on cellphones switch to making laptops
5. Chinese customers buy American laptops which are cheaper and better than theirs
That's just an exchange of labor so they do what they're best at, and we do what we're best at, and both of us benefit.

However this is what really happens:
1. We outsource making a cellphone to China
2. American customers get cheaper cellphones
3. Chinese customers can't buy American laptops due to sanctions
4. All the Americans who worked on cellphones switch to welfare
^^^ this is the unfair and stupid part, not the actual outsourcing ^^^

China is playing games with their currency and bureaucracy to prevent equal exchange of labor, it ends up being only one-way, and they benefit while we suffer. It's parasitism.

I agree completely, actually. Outsourcing per se isn't a problem because the only jobs that are outsourced are those sectors where your economy isn't competitive anyways, which frees up domestic labor and capital to work in your competitive sector, which is to say your export sector. The "problem" with outsourcing is that unions, the Fed, and a fuckton of regulations means that our competitive sectors aren't as competitive as they could be. And removing these regulations and barriers will not only make export sectors more competitive, it improves the entire economy.

Like with outsourcing, the answer is comparative advantage. Machines are naturally more inclined for some tasks, while people are better suited for others. Replacing these latter jobs with machinery would either cause an increase in costs, which defeats the entire point, or it's completely impossible. This guy also brings up good points.

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what happened to the last thread?