New FAL Pistol from Atlantic Firearms

William Perez
William Perez

atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-pistols/sa58-tactical-pistol-25-bbl-w-stabilizing-brace-detail.html?Itemid=0

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Jacob Gray
Jacob Gray

A hand flamer?

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Juan Nelson
Juan Nelson

Stocks on pistols always looks so stupid, even these types of pistols.

Justin Edwards
Justin Edwards

So small its cute

Charles Wood
Charles Wood

Repeating flashbang.

Zachary Moore
Zachary Moore

Sounds like a pain to shoot tbh

Tyler Stewart
Tyler Stewart

Well now i suppose we have the luxury of not needing anything to help stabilize repeat shooting or pistols now don't we. someone fucking kill me

Isaac Lopez
Isaac Lopez

why not make a normal FAL?

Christian Long
Christian Long

Does DSA actually make good FALs or are they still shit?

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Colton Flores
Colton Flores

Chris Bartocci shills for them pretty hard. Apparently they bought out all the tooling and blueprints FN was using for them back in the day, so if there's any US company that does FAL clones well it would be them.

Ian Hughes
Ian Hughes

I'd put money on "ATF import point fuckery". For the ATF 50AE is more sporting purpose than 22lr.

Daniel Wilson
Daniel Wilson

Apparently they've switched to cast receivers of late.

Robert Carter
Robert Carter

I just got my DSA Voyager 21 inch barrel ol standard last week. Been throwing a few rounds out of it about every single day, seems pretty decent. No obvious errors in worksmanship, was able to group 2 inches at 80 yards with shit grade Tula, had one hiccup because of the gas setting which was easily fixed enough. If its not a sterling, hand made Belgian beauty, it certainly seems like a functional battle rifle.

As I type, the one worry I have is that they sent a plastic magazine and not one of their own steel ones, and I prefer steel. Not only did I get the magazine I don't want, I remember watching that one Arizona-what-his-nuts-guy on the Youtube saying that Coonan and DSA receivers might not take surplus or other magazines, so I hope that when I get an order of steel magazines I don't get fucked over. I'll update if that ever happens.

Also, steel cast is inferior, but will it put a lifespan on my gun? In some cases the weaknesses of certain processes and materials can be fatal to the firearm, other times its beefcake enough to not be a concern.

Benjamin Sanders
Benjamin Sanders

Because pistol FAL a cute
A CUTE!

Bentley Thomas
Bentley Thomas

they suck, dont buy them. The receivers are rarely in spec and are cast not forged despite their frequent spreading of misinformation about this.
buy a fal on an import receiver or a LMT (pre 2006-iirc) DSA gun

Julian Ortiz
Julian Ortiz

G3 pistol when?

Alexander Taylor
Alexander Taylor

but will it put a lifespan on my gun?
want to risk your gun blowing up?

Sebastian Sanders
Sebastian Sanders

Are you seriously saying that DSA is selling receivers so weak that they will blow up in my face, and the faces of other customers? Do receivers crack and fail, not explode, because barrels and chambers explode?

Its like the Tommy gun forum I joined for a bit when my brand new TM1 had teething issues, like every other modern built Auto Ordnance gun out there. I went for the free warranty fix, which fixed the gun perfectly into a well functioning weapon, while the entire forum was pushing me to send it to a specialty custom shop instead and PAY WITH MY OWN MONEY what Kahr was supposed to do with the warranty. Seemed like they were pushing a private business or two on forum members more than help them.

The more I hear about how shitty DSA and Coonan is the more I get the feeling that custom FAL builders are smearing them for their own gain. Having someone claim that the cast receiver is going to blow up is the kind of bullshit claim that a smear campaign would use. I don't think I'm going to believe anything else bad about the company until I see otherwise.

Jack Foster
Jack Foster

Are you seriously saying that DSA is selling receivers so weak that they will blow up in my face, and the faces of other customers?
Why would you buy a rifle that you know isn't built to quality standards? Not even international military standards.
Its like the Tommy gun forum I joined for a bit when my brand new TM1 had teething issues, like every other modern built Auto Ordnance gun out there. I went for the free warranty fix, which fixed the gun perfectly into a well functioning weapon, while the entire forum was pushing me to send it to a specialty custom shop instead and PAY WITH MY OWN MONEY what Kahr was supposed to do with the warranty. Seemed like they were pushing a private business or two on forum members more than help them.
Congrats. That's a fucking faggy gun forum. This is *Mythchan.
The more I hear about how shitty DSA and Coonan is the more I get the feeling that custom FAL builders are smearing them for their own gain. Having someone claim that the cast receiver is going to blow up is the kind of bullshit claim that a smear campaign would use. I don't think I'm going to believe anything else bad about the company until I see otherwise.
Again, why the fuck would you knowingly purchase a product that is BUILT with lower quality components and parts. If they are going to the extent of lowering quality of parts via casting, what makes you think that other areas of the firearm will be lacking as well?
Also, the Coonan handgun had issues. I do not understand why anyone would buy that firearm. Last I heard was issues; although, I am sure those issues are not a big deal due to the fact that it is a range toy.

tommy gun forum
yo my gun is having problem
send it to this guy for $300 he'll fix it up real good
no thanks ill send it to the manufacturer.
Zig Forums
dsa is casting shit and poor quality
dont buy it man probably going to century-arms-blow-up in your face
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKE MY MONIES

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Hudson Roberts
Hudson Roberts

Damn, all I want is a full-sized FAL.

Matthew Jones
Matthew Jones

Already exist IIRC.

Joshua Carter
Joshua Carter

Can any user tell me if a .308 pistol is any good?

Jace Miller
Jace Miller

Congrats. That's a fucking faggy gun forum. This is *Mythchan
What's the difference?

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Joshua Harris
Joshua Harris

Is there no good new production FALs? Is it easier and less of a hassle to just buy a PTR to get your euro battle rifle fix? If one does wan't a new/ish FAL is it possible to buy a properly made new production receiver and build it yourself from a parts kit or are they hard to find?

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Logan Lee
Logan Lee

You can take a FAL pistol out for walks to the parks and let it play on the swings and nobody will look at your strangely. If you take a FAL rifle to do that everyone will think you are your FAL are some sort of weird couple.

Michael Watson
Michael Watson

does anyone have the ad for the short barreled g3 that was the size of an mp5 but in 7.62 real nato

Gavin Williams
Gavin Williams

For a moment, I read "autistic firearms"

Hunter Parker
Hunter Parker

just go PTR and save yourself the trouble

Ryan Cooper
Ryan Cooper

Is there no good new production FALs?
Correct. Get a fal built by a respected builder on an import or lmt receiver or just get a ptr

Zachary Bell
Zachary Bell

Not the ad, but have this.

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Blake Perry
Blake Perry

This bad boy?

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Wyatt Torres
Wyatt Torres

woah woah woah there you have a tax stamp for that AOW kiddo?

Eli Smith
Eli Smith

still waiting for the .50 BMG Pistol for concealed carry.

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Gavin Peterson
Gavin Peterson

And yet they were able to do a fucking paddle mag release which is beyond most modern manufacturers

Henry Sullivan
Henry Sullivan

That's because it's a gun taken straight from the factory and given a crop job, not an original manufacture.

Jose Robinson
Jose Robinson

Apparently they bought out all the tooling and blueprints FN was using for them back in the day
The original blueprints aren't that important, it just saves them the trouble of having to reverse engineer the tolerances.
The tooling I really doubt they have in the first place, and even if they did it would mean less than squat. One, manufacturing processes have changed immeasurably over the last fifty years, and there's no way they're doing it old school, with banks of milling machines, lathes, and shapers, each set up to do one pass in an operation.
Two, the physical tooling is not so much important as is the institutional knowledge of how to properly tune and run that tooling. Building one rifle is easy; building a million rifles is an exercise in statistics, minimizing variation so that you produce parts within tolerance every single time.

William Hernandez
William Hernandez

That muzzle flash
Brutal

Will try to see someone shooting it, to see the fireball it creates.
H&K could had expanded G3's modularity like a Stoner 63a at this point, instead of just milking shekels.

Camden Lewis
Camden Lewis

Yeah, the other responses in the thread seem to echo what you say. Especially the cast receivers, I didn't know that and it's disheartening to hear. Makes me wonder why Bartocci shills for them and honestly reduces his credibility in my eyes.

Cameron James
Cameron James

All FN Herstal type 3 receivers are cast, and there aren't many reports of those rifles having any of the aforementioned issues, let alone exploding. Cast versus forged isn't the issue here, it's the fact that both DSA and Coonan can't seem to make receivers that work with standard FAL parts. Both Coonans that I have built needed additional machining (one on the radius at the front of the magwell, and the other on the left hand rail for the dust cover), and from what I've read on FALfiles DSA hasn't been much better in the past few years.
I can say that DSA's 30 round mags are garbage that don't fit in either of the FALs I built yet all of the surplus ones I've tried fit perfectly.

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Carter Morgan
Carter Morgan

I also forgot to mention that both Coonan receivers I built on had improperly cut carry handle slots.
I really wish someone like Tortort or Bula would get into the FAL upper market.I'd gladly pay $500-$600 for a forged or billet upper that I don't have to perform finish machining on.

Mason Walker
Mason Walker

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