Scout Rifles - Good idea, or gay as dicks?

We had the answer in 1945, but you didn't listen.

7.92×33 kurz?

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No, .280

Which was several different cartridges, pick one 280 British cartridge, you can't cherry pick the best aspects of each.

Oh hang on, you're the sperg who thinks the 14 MOA rifle that couldn't be mass produced was rejected as a result of some seppo conspiracy.

The original 139gr loading, I didn't specify any others, just the original. How was I cherry picking anything?


Yeah, according to a single rigged US test that favoured the M14 as a gift from God himself because "fuck dem stinkin limey gunz! we needz it made in murica!".

Literally every other test has disagreed with the "muh 14 MOA" claim. Do you really honestly believe that ANY smokeless rifled gun shoots worse MOA than blackpowder muskets and unrifled pipe guns? You don't see anything fishy about the US testing at all?

Anyway, the original forum post making up the claim linked this test as his supposed source for the EM-2 shooting 14 MOA.: www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/896858.pdf

The "14 MOA" claim comes from the "combat accuracy" portion of the testing and is the "extreme shot to normal C.I.", which is not MOA. The EM-2 got 14", the FAL got 17" and the M14 got 9".
The actual GROUP SIZES for semi-automatic fire at 100 yards from the bench for the three rifles is as follows:
EM-2: 1.6"
FAL: 3.2"
M14: 1.4"

The retard forumlet obviously opened up the test document, looked for the biggest number he could find and then claimed that it was the EM-2's MOA at 100 yards. Just clicking the link he provided proves him wrong instantly.
The EM-2 came 1st in full-automatic fire accuracy too, with an 11" group at 100 yards from the bench compared to 12" for the FAL and 20" for the M14, obviously because of the .308's recoil.

Just read the summary for fuck's sake, it even praises the EM-2's accuracy in the very first page. This "muh 14 MOA" meme needs to die along with the forumlet who created it.

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So glad we shipped you all off

And I'm glad we are out here, rather than in England where the political class decided (among other things) that importing "refugees" would be a good idea, to allow sharia law to work alongside British law, and which all but surrendering the UKs sovereignty to the EU in return for trade was a great idea.

And don't get me started on the restrict motor vehicles idea that some idiot came up with as the solution to the peaceful trucks of the Religion of Cuck. Yeah, that will work. Just like banning guns and restricting knives curbed crime!

I think this is the point where you invoke the Emu war, monocle wearing tea drinking top hat man. Pip pip!

And I'm glad we are out here, rather than in England where the political class decided (among other things)…

That importing "refugees" would be a good idea
That allowing sharia law to work alongside British law was a good idea.
That surrendering the UKs sovereignty to the EU in return for trade was a great idea.
That the peaceful trucks of the Region of Cuck can be stopped by restricting motor vehicles.
That crime can be stopped by banning/restricting guns/knifes.

I could go on, but that should suffice. Also, I think this is the point where you invoke the Emu war.

Enjoy trying to get your country back, monocle wearing tea drinking top hat man. Pip pip!