Bruh invidio.us
Where did i imply that you shouldn't carry picks, you dense motherfucker?
What a douche
In theory, it doesn't. In practice - go on, try to pick a disc lock with your shitty picks.
Looks like someone who doesn't know shit about locks is you here. Clearly not all locks currently existing are pickable with modern tools and clearly most that are aren't pickable by some stupid fag like you.
Go on then, go try to pick a lock you don't know with the tools you don't have.
The Bug Out Bag
Jonathan Bennett
Anthony Torres
>Bruh invidio.us
Yeah, see how pure that rust is? You couldn't just grab a random pipe off the ground and shave it. It takes a little refining.
The implication is made in your argument of superior tools but fair, maybe I'm too autistic for this one.
It's Zig Forums man everyone talks like a knowitall.
In theory it does. While I will concede that a disc lock is harder, if it relies on pins and opens via a key they CAN get stuck on the shearline. A different tool like an 8-pin finger pick or a disc-picking tool might help you, but the fundamental process is similar and can be achieved with regular lockpicks if you have the patience and understanding on how to manipulate the individual pins.
Barring some ridiculous shit I don't know about, if it uses pins it can be picked.
I relish the opportunity to learn from a challenge, so I think I will.
John Ward
I'm gonna double post here so I can correct myself a bit: Discs and pins are different, but I moreso meant the general idea of a pin which is that they align with a mechanism to allow entry, meaning they can be individually manipulated. If you had the know-how of a false gate's feedback or even just bypassed the copper structure piece at the end of the lock by force you could get through even an Abloy with a little luck. I am talking about the fundamental design of a mechanism's ability to be manipulated.
Isaiah Wright
I never said you can, my sttement was that these are the basic components. It doesn't mean you'll do it like that - you won't be able to ignite it without that torch, for starters. Still, to get your basic termite you'll only need some rust that you can refine into perfect reagent using nothing but fire and some soda and file some aluminum scrap turned into small pieces with a file. Al rich alloys will do too. This one will be hard to ignite so you can add some al powder for your convenience. From that the possibilities are endless: use superphosphate instead of rust and you'll get cooler mixture that creates highly toxic gas if you add water, make transitioning mixture that ignites easier and then ignites hotter stuff in turn, tightly press the thing in the container for more intense reaction, etc.
Destructive methods are superior to non-destructive as they are easily scalable, don't require special skills from the user and can be applied universally. The only reason to not use them is lack of appropriate resources or need to preserve the obstacle - be it stealth or convenience. It doesn't mean you shouldn't use what fits better.
Sure, it doesn't mean that you'll get through a quality lock with your handmade picks in a lifetime. Especially since some locks require a special tensioner that you won't have. Check this out invidio.us
Yeah, there are no "unpickable" locks like there are no "unguessable" passwords, but cyber security proves it even better - to achieve the desired result you'd very likely to need around few hundred lifetimes of the current universe. But you can try to, the infinite monkey theorem does apply.
Chase Hernandez
Also, to all streloks interested, here's a great example of a practical solution to applying termite. It actually was mentioned in the book i use but i never git to it in discussion and found this vid. Just ignore the annoying music.
Sebastian Robinson
Because we're thinking of a light-weight bugout situation, things like crowbars and cutters and torches should only be carried if they are going to provide you with an immense advantage such as in an urban environment. My problem with seeking thermite at all is that its hard to source and compose, then ignite those materials and they don't last forever so they're not reliable. I mean you're right, you could grind down iron and aluminum foil into thermite but I'm thinking from the perspective of someone in the field and the sort of materials they would find. Some stray pipes and kitchen aluminum foil is all you could get your hands on and there's no way you're carrying a torch around just in case you get to use it.
You are right, breaking a window is always easier than picking the front door, but preserving the obstacle is helpful and knowledge weighs nothing. Gear is great for the man that doesn't know what he's doing, but Zig Forumsommandos SHOULD know what they're doing. I think learning about mechanisms and machines is worth the effort.
The special tensioner makes it easier but its still doable, I learned from a video called 'lockpicking for the new millenium' that demonstrated the difference between opening special locks with a tool vs not using the tool and just using a lifter and tension rod. The good news is both the disc lock tool and finger pick are lightweight. Not only that, but disc locks are also super rare. Most people don't bother picking locks because like you said, destructive methods require no training and that's what most thieves have, no training. Otherwise they could be a locksmith instead of a thief. We mostly use 6 pin tumblers in america and they're on virtually everything. Even cars are just 6 pins but double sided and can be opened either with normal picks or you can commence the jiggling.
I'll concede to you, because time is of the essence. If I saw a disc lock in a field situation I'd forget about stealing the motorcycle without an anklegrinder or something.
James Wright
Not really. Only if you don't know what you're doing. Get some al powder, bake some rust in a pan with soda and you've got good termite that will ignite well without any rare stuff like magnesium. You can ignite it with some easily made powder out of sugar and potassium nitrate. All can be bought without any suspicion or prepared at home with no special tools. We could even make some pic guidelines. I've got some excellent material for that, unfortunately it's in Russian only so it's not of much use for you even though i did once post it in the pdf thread.
It's useful but you can't expect a man to be knowledgeable, ready and for anything. Lockpicking does deserve more attention though.
invidio.us
invidio.us
Watch first video - the guy will tell you about one common weakness of these type of locks.
Wyatt Russell
So you're suggesting a 2-part ignition train a la demolition style rather than an oxyacetyline torch? That wouldn't actually be that bad but I tend to stay away from one-use items. Biggest issue with the idea of painkiller pills and water purifying tablets. Everyone uses them but I'd rather have a sawyer straw and ignore the headaches because they're reliable.
I don't expect normies to, but I kinda expect Zig Forumsommandos. We're the autists of the internet and we have a reputation to uphold as always unique. It might just be me but I love learning about anything that involves machines or mechanisms, they run our world and we treat them like magic.
Anthony Gutierrez
couple of those thermite pens would be a nice addition to an urban bugout bag, thats for sure. might have to try and make some, does thermite take well to epoxy or glue suspension?
willow bark my dude. multiple types of willow have the same anti-inflammatory chemical known as salacin. course, you gotta be in an area with willows.
Kevin Sanders
Yes, the go-to recipe i've got is using filed aluminum pieces as main charge and using al powder mix as an initiator, as the powder mix, while burning faster, catches up on fire easier. It's actually got 3 steps that way - initiating fuse using some hot powder, then "thin" termite that initiates the main charge that burns hotter and deeper.
Reasonable, but one-use items for one-time visits seem appropriate to me.
These are fine as you actually use them only when needed, not as a constantly consuming irrecoverable source. Think of it like ammo - you carry it and only use when need it.
True, but the scope of our interest might differ. You won't find the most autistic autist to posses all the knowledge and not be a normalfag in at least one sphere.
I think it's alright as it doesn't need air to burn, though it's recommended to press it really tightly, like with car jack tightly. Otherwise, some glue shouldn't be much of a hindrance for such a nuclear mixture.
Actually. there's a more reliable and efficient alternative to termite, though it's pretty hard to find - shaped charges, especially the linear types or rebar cutters like picrelated. They are loud but fast, predictable, autonomous and probably lighter.