The whole being able to pray to angels and saints thing basically boils down to angels and saints being a part of the body of Christ, thus they inherit Christ's omnipresence, etc.
Is it okay to pray to angels?
Revelation 22:8-9
I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed me these things. But he said to me, "Do not do that I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship God."
Matthew 4:9-10
and he said to Him, "All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me." Then Jesus said to him, "Go, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'"
Romans 1:25
For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Do not pray to angels. Neither pray to saints. Pray to God and God alone:
◄ Matthew 6:6 ►
"But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.
Yeah Catholic here we follow all those verses.
Why don't you do something different times time? Like, If you know the argument is going to go down X way, why don't you jump to that part already? Having to wrestle the same points continually is boring.
Been here for years, just never bothered to look up Jim.
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Before your comment I hadn't grasped to a full extent as to why Catholics pray to saints. I still believe we shouldn't ask those who are resting to pray for us but I thank you for your input.
Paradise is said to be great and all, but its never said that you don't work in there anywhere in the bible.
Also, some Catholic Saints have spoken about how they'll try to send help form heaven before they died. St. Therese comes to mind, read up on her.
I read somewhere that Michael is actually just the name Jesus takes when he rides into battle. Sounds like bull shit though
In every one of those, imagine an audience funneling all their thoughts into the brain of the prayer recipient AT ONCE.
Now can you imagine even if if any one of them can receive such prayers besides the Lord Almighty, would they even be able to make anything intelligible out of the noise? They wont, and in fact, it would drive them nuts.
There is literally no reason not to send your prayers to God directly.
Anons, do not pray to Angels, they are mere servants.
Short anserw: prayer of a just man availeth much.
Long anserw: On the contrary, It is written (Job 5:1): "Call . . . if there be any that will answer thee, and turn to some of the saints." Now, as Gregory says (Moral. v, 30) on this passage, "we call upon God when we beseech Him in humble prayer." Therefore when we wish to pray God, we should turn to the saints, that they may pray God for us.
Further, the saints who are in heaven are more acceptable to God than those who are on the way. Now we should make the saints, who are on the way, our intercessors with God, after the example of the Apostle, who said (Romans 15:30): "I beseech you . . . brethren, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and by the charity of the Holy Ghost, that you help me in your prayers for me to God." Much more, therefore, should we ask the saints who are in heaven to help us by their prayers to God.
Further, an additional argument is provided by the common custom of the Church which asks for the prayers of the saints in the Litany.
I answer that, According to Dionysius (Eccl. Hier. v) the order established by God among things is that "the last should be led to God by those that are midway between." Wherefore, since the saints who are in heaven are nearest to God, the order of the Divine law requires that we, who while we remain in the body are pilgrims from the Lord, should be brought back to God by the saints who are between us and Him: and this happens when the Divine goodness pours forth its effect into us through them. And since our return to God should correspond to the outflow of His boons upon us, just as the Divine favors reach us by means of the saints intercession, so should we, by their means, be brought back to God, that we may receive His favors again. Hence it is that we make them our intercessors with God, and our mediators as it were, when we ask them to pray for us.