Orthodox or Catholic?

I don't know if I really buy the idea that being correct necessitates Grace, I mean look at something like Job.

Catholicism is going through a trial I think. For whatever reason its been hit hard by modernity but I believe there are ways out of it.

I think the reason Orthodoxy is based is more incidental than anything else, for all we know in 500 years the situation will be reversed.

That's not really an argument though.
Most Muslims are also clued into their faith. That doesn't mean that Islam is the true faith.
As to the amount of people who live their faith appropriately, remember the words of St Athanasius.

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HA HA HA HA HA
Who ever edited this meme 10/10 to you sir.

Says who, you? Who are you that can see the future and why do you waste your time on message boards then?

I said "for all we know" meaning we don't know. I mean the opposite of what you're saying, the situation could be reversed in 500 years, maybe itll be more of the same, maybe itll be something else, I have no clue.

The point is I don't think the current difficult state of things is much of an argument.

The sacrifice of Christ is the basis for the New Covenant.
So research on the Christus Victor (Orthodox) vs the Satisfaction theory of atonement (Papal Catholic) and decide by yourself.

I don't mean least MODERN in chronology I mean least MODERN in principles/teachings!
The idea of a merely symbolic eucharist//baptism is a MODERN innovation just like mandatory priestly celibacy or Vatican Two or Sola Scriptura!! Flee MODERNISM!

Orthodox are catholics too.

Why do people assume that there are only two theories here?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recapitulation_theory_of_atonement

Christus victor and recapitulation are just describing different aspects of the same thing, they aren't really different theories