his first mistake was probably messing with G-D's chosen People, Israel
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We discuss what he did wrong
Levi Adams
Oliver Rogers
Did you people even watch the video? Shotguns suck. Tarrant started with a semi automatic shotgun, but only killed one target with it. The second was still alive and crawling away. He threw away the shotgun and switched to his rifle.
Later he tried to do a drive by with a pump shotgun, but couldn't pump it because the steering wheel was in the way. Two shotguns, only one muslim killed. Shotguns are weak.
Colton Taylor
Shotguns are not for noobs. At that distance they're instantly lethal, they blow the fuck out aything with the shot leaving huge gaping holes behind, and I have to doubt even level 4 armor can save you (it'll stop all the pellets but you'll probably die anyway). You just have to be accurate and make deliberate shots. There's a good reason they were used extensively as a CQB weapon in WW1, and why people have been trying to ban these as inhumane weapon - along with poison gases and white phosphorus - just to give you an impression how deadly shotguns are in competent hands.
Hudson Hernandez
SHOTGUN CHOKES
Dominic Allen
The right idea is carrying several guns you pre-test, at least one automatic and one revolver (or one rifle and one shotgun). And lots and lots of loaded magazines in a messenger bag.
He carried 1 gun he didn't pre test, he basically just purchased it and the bullets. He had enough magazines for about 3 minutes which isn't nearly enough. Of course it jammed on first firing, I'm surprised he hit anything…
Ayden Sullivan
For fuck's sake. Your argument is a century out of date. Look what militaries use for CQB in the year 2019.
Wait. You are telling me that guns have to be aimed? I'm shocked.
Brandon Hall
To paraphrase that, shotguns don't have the capacity to be magdumped t. carlos so you need to put every shot on target, but at the same time you don't need to magdump them because - at that range specifically - a single hit is instantly lethal.
Nicholas Gonzalez
SMGs and carbines. Same stuff they used back in WW1. But that specific war theater featured trenches and modern wars don't, there used to be a niche filled splendidly by shotguns but not anymore.
Justin Martinez
I thought I was the Strelok who championed the 308 battle rifles using soft points. Oh well.
As for shotguns, not the main point of this thread, both choke AND barrel length make a difference. People in the know, like Lyman and Ballilstics Products, the authors and general authority in shotgun handloading, make note that barrels shorter than 24 inches start to suffer pattern problems and wider patterns, even if the powder is completely burned up by 16-18 inches into the barrel. This is why hunting guns should all be 22 inches or longer, or preferably 24 inch barrel or longer. 18 inch barrels are mostly for slugs, or to be easy to handle for short range combat purposes. Shorter barrels will throw larger patterns (and worse quality, more erratic patterns), and full length shotgun barrels offer superior patterns and tighter groups, good for buckshot hunting (and if somehow you need or want buckshot to have a longer effective range).
Keep in mind, kids, that a tight group of buckshot is one of the most lethal things you can hit people and animals with. Keep in mind, kids, that scattered buckshot can be lethal, but it can also be of very minor wounding when spread too much. Tight patterns act like closer to super slugs, wide patterns spray things with multiple hits, and single buckshot pellets scattered to the wind might kill with a spine, head, heart shot, or might just leave someone with a minor and easily survivable wound. So the whole "scatter shot multiple fatalities" thing is stupid anyway.
I shoot tight choke 10 bore with hand load buckshot and can keep all 15 pellets of 00 buckshot on a 8x11 inch square paper at 35 yards. With the right setup, especially buckshot hunter preferred, you can keep collateral damage down (intended or not) for quite a surprising range.
I just got off a ban for mentioning this in another thread. Guess I'm going to get a week long ban for bringing it up again.
Christopher Thomas
What did this guy do wrong?