Orthodox claiming they're not schismatics is the funniest thing. If they didn't like the filoque they should've called for an ecumenical council to resolve the dispute like what happened over the past thousand years, but instead they threw a shitfit and "excommunicated" the entire western church over it.
And their history is a prime example of why the Popes position of authority is needed, the Patriarchs can't get their shit together and meet up to agree about anything at all.
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>'ecumenism thread'
Because the reformers were right about sanctification and justification but liturgy is an essential form of worship. Because scripture, tradition, and reason are a right view of authority. I can't be Catholic, I reject supererogation, mandatory clerical celibacy, papal infallibility, and the Immaculate Conception, and you can't use Newman's necessary development idea to get to the full set of RCC beliefs. The East is tempting for many Anglicans, who tend toward a high ecclesiology. I don't know any EO people where I am, though.
Not anymore, i realize that sola scriptura isn't correct, since there are many paths to God, but also believe that the bible is objective and vital.
Because i've never been to a protestant church, or a baptist church.
I'm non-denom, was raised by lukewarm Catholics. I have great respect for the Church, but my local ones in my area, I just can't go to because of disagreements. I like Catholicism for their long tradition and managing to outmaneuver politics for hundreds of years. And the Orthodox for even richer tradition and greater dedication to scripture. Protestants are okay, I guess?
Would chose Orthodox if I have to though.
It always was patriarchs making the right decisions, papist. What do you think the ecumenical councils were for?
There haven't been any issues dire enough for another ecumenical council - besides I'd take stasis over some guy changing doctrine on a whim any day of the week
Calvinism is more of a transdenominational thing. There is no such thing as a Calvinist church. It's just a set of doctrines that a specific denomination might hold to. Puritants, reformed Baptists and Presbyterian all believe in the Calvinist soteriology but they have their disagreements. Also, for all the papists who are leaning towards Calvinism, have you read Augustine's works on grace and free will? If so, what did you think of it.
For me it’s because I feel it is more natural for me as an American descended from English settlers to follow Anglicanism then either be a follower of some man I feel exercises his power beyond anything the early church demands and quite frankly (heh pun not intended) is weak willed and doesn’t defend the faith, or join an ethnic church that no matter how many accommodations they make for converts will always put either Greek, Slavic or Middle Eastern members and their concerns first.
(Also I’m HCC-AR if anyone’s wondering)
It's just that with beliefs of the reformers, if they are true, I don't see why there would be a need for traditional liturgy. If I held to protestant beliefs, I would honestly be a Baptist.