I'm mostly a porn adict and I'm stuggling to do nofap

The verse never calls those marrying due to lack of self-control sinful, it literally exhorts them to marry to avoid sin caused by lack of self-control in the first place! Having non-procreative sex within marriage is not "venial sin".


I called you out on acting like a Pharisee, performing arm-chair psychoanalysis, and promoting heretical and Satanic doctrine. Your actions, not you. Show me where I called you a brainlet. I'll wait.


If you enjoy these things, then you are rebelling against the Word of God. Repent:

James 3: 5-12:

5 See how great a forest a little fire kindles! 6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell. 7 For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind. 8 But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. 9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God. 10 Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so.

11 Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?

12 Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh.

Ephesians 5: 3-4:

3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints;

4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting,

which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.

Ephesians 4:29

Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

Colossians 3:8

But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander,

and obscene talk from your mouth.

Matthew 15:11

It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.

Matthew 12:36

I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak,


If that was your intention, your characterization of those who engage in marital non-procreative sex as crypto-sodomites didn't help much. Also: venial sin…. but not prohibitied….

Show me in the verses that I posted, that married non-procreative sex is a "venial sin."

But apparently according to you, commiting a "venial sin" for the sake of a marriage is okay:

If you have the strength, be chaste. If not, enjoy sex with her in moderation (i.e. don't make it the center of your existence), don't be kinky, and ultimately be procreative. Monk/Nunhood is not for everyone.

First off, give me 1 (one) verse from the Bible that confirms this.
Secondly, I didn't read your whole post, but I noticed
this is more akin to what you are suggesting. Sex is obviously pleasurable, and God never commanded us not to enjoy it (just look at the verses brought up by ). Who are you to make up new commandments not based in Scripture? By limiting sex to procreation-purpose only, you are bringing it to the level of animals who mate only with the purpose to pass on their genes.

Procreative and unitive. Not procreative only.

Every sexual act can be unitive, but not all of them can be procreative in the way that it would result in pregnancy. However all of them still need to be open to procreation, which means no unnatural contraception. This is what is commanded and this is what makes an act procreative, not that you put in effort so that every time you have sex it's as likely to produce a child as possible and you only do it for that purpose alone.

When did I claim this? Stop putting words in my mouth.
I specifically said: "boning your wife as often as possible", referencing this user who described the vulgar thing vulgarly himself:

I never said that engaging in non-procreative marital sex is venially sinful in itself and should be prohibited.
Stop putting words in my mouth.

Word vomit; flushed down the toilet it goes.
Reasoning like a brainlet makes you worthy of being called a brainlet; I'm not the "no u" type so it doesn't matter whether you called me the same or not. You are however describing me as a disciple of Satan, how much harsher is this?
It is venially sinful, I know; I also use curse words out loud when angry and by myself. I am not immaculate.
Sodomy is a transgression which cries out to Heaven for vengeance; I would never even faintly equate it with any type of heterosexual relation.
Yes, but:

>If she really wants to get more physically intimate: let her but don't be insisting yourself

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My issue has only ever been with "boning your wife as often as possible" and "your wife is obligated to open her legs at the snap of your fingers", though I also argue that coitus only for procreative reasons is preferable due to the clear detachment of lust from love.
"Boning your wife as often as possible while pretending to have been truly victorious with your pre-marital struggle with lust causing you to masturbate" is in no way noble or honourable; it's hypocritical.

Yet that is what 1 Corinthians 7:5 says. You even imply in a Pharisaical fashion that a "Real True Christian" would gladly take up the offer presented in the final paragraph of (along with your final sentence in )
while 1 Corinthians 7:5 offers mercy from St. Paul himself to those not strong enough, speaking the Word of God. You're making it very easy to misinterpret your position.

I described what you are pushing as Satanic, not you. Even Peter was rebuked by God as Satan when he, with what he thought were good intentions, tried to dissuade our Savior from performing his mission; and this was shortly after God proclaimed Peter as a Rock for his profession of Christ.

First you admit you enjoy and revel in it, and even act braggartly and boastful of it; now you're penitent, "venially sinful" and "not immaculate." Which is it? You can't have it both ways. Either struggle or don't. Cursing in the heat of the moment IRL is one thing. Taking the time to type it out is another.

You're also further reinforcing my distaste with the concept of dividing sin into "venial" and "mortal." You seem to have a more lax attitude towards the "venial". All sin is sin before God.

It does not say that "boning your wife as often as possible" and that she is "obligated to open her legs at the snap of your fingers".
Should a "Real True Christian" choose lust over love?
He does not condone their lack of self-control though and it should not be expressed in their marriage.
TIL: the Church Fathers were pushing Satanic ideas
I didn't; I explained that I like to shock people with the harsh reality of that which they promote.
Purgatory is real.

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So non pro-creative marital sex is not a venial or mortal sin, but it is lust over love? What's the difference? Just like a Pharisee, you care more about the letter of the law than mercy.


1 Corinthians 7:28

28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned.


Saying that those who are not strong enough to go with sex only 2 times in their life or be lifelong chaste, aren't True Christians, and are evil slaves to lust is Satanic. (and don't bother with the "don't put words in my mouth" claptrap. You said it yourself that not taking the offer you presented is choosing lust over love.)


You're lying. You know what you wrote. You said you enjoyed and liked using filthy shocking language and that it amused you. And you wave it off because "it's just venial." All while posting pics of the Virgin Mary and Female Saints.

If you're trolling, mission accomplished. Well played. Slow clap, and all that. I'm done. Good night and God have mercy on your soul.

It is a venial sin if it is "boning your wife as often as possible".
What's the difference between passionately kissing your wife and "boning her as often as possible"? The former is a clear sign of love while the latter mainly the fruit of lust though you could say "it's just love, man :)" (fornicators do the same).
How is this relevant?
For the umpteenth time: I have not once said that marital non-procreative coitus is venially sinful in itself and I've also certainly never claimed that engaging in it makes you a false Christian since I've even clearly stated that I would myself if my wife insisted.
And I firmly stand by my statement, despite your inane accusation of me acting as a disciple of Satan. 🙄
Slander is mortally sinful. I've explained that when you try to polish a turd, I will, due to the vulgarity of the subject matter itself, vulgarly describe to you what you're trying to polish and if it shocks you, wonder if what can so easily be described vulgarly is truly godly. See it like this:
You wrote "F U C K" on a piece of paper and then proceed to go on about the aesthetic beauty of the combination of the shape of those letters and how your calligraphy embellishes it even more and blablabla. Then, I open my mouth and say loud and clear "the word F U C K is just vulgar, pal" which causes you to screech and tell me "Oh no! Think of the children! How can you be so vulgar! How dare you!" with quivering lips and crocodile tears.

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No it isn't. You should have sex with your wife as often as possible and as hard as possible to keep her happy and free of temptation.

t. Satan