Restoring family and marriage

All retaining all sexual pleasures in only the form of each other is the material, physical function of this love. It cannot be neglected in any way, and it is the outward function of the interior love.

Sex between spouses is obviously not wrong, but there's a time and place for it, and it is possible to use your wife as a form of masturbation.

and one bad thing about them is that they deny that Jesus Christ is God
if you're suggesting that we should entertain the viewpoints of archeretics if it might score us some tradwives then i suggest you go back to whatever incel shithole you crawled out of

Which is difficult to blame on a man who engages in any sort of sexual pleasure strictly in the conjugal bed, for the purposes of either/or unity or procreation.

Is a man with a barren wife using her for masturbation?
Did Solomon use his wife(Song of Solomon) for masturbation? He seems to find pleasure in her breasts.

Don't forget, St. Paul also said the indulgence of the conjugal bed is the Christian exception, it's not perfect within itself, but it is one that can be over-looked, as long as it used within its proper form (no contraception, complete openness to the procreative powers).

No contraception?
I mean, do you think God wants to flood the world with 20 billion people?
Can you find a biblical source for only having sex for procreative means?

I am however against hormonal contraception for its harmful bodily effects.

Before citing "Song of Solomon", please confirm that you are chaste(Not homosexual, not a masturbator, etc), have high intelligence quotient, and are faithful to the lord.

Are there still traditional young women in Catholic and Orthodox churches in the West? Chaste, no tattoos, and modestly dressed? The reason I ask is not only because the Protestant women my age are terrible Christians (getting new tattoos, drunkenness, constantly swearing and insulting others, etc.), but also because I'm starting to have serious doubts about Protestantism in general. I've been reading St. Paul's letters lately and he's opened my eyes to the value of tradition in the church.

Beating women into place doesnt really create healthy women. Why do you think 90% of arab women turn into turbothots the instance they touch western freedom?

You just need to realise that most women (and men too) are utter trash and try to choose wisely

Women are like children, they parrot what society thinks. And sense every Church is going the way of modernism, "church girls" are just as bad. Even the crazed Mormons are having problems.

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Muslims allow women to divorce their husbands if he has erectile dysfunction. Think about that.

uhm, sweety, they practically define more than 50% what their society is. So if the society goes down the toilet they're more guilty than the men.
Of course, you virgins don't have the mental compasity understand women beyond their "fragile" nature, so you defend them to the death and question why they'll trample over your broken body once facts hit you in the face.

Men allowed themselves to be weak, women took simply advantage of the situation; I blame both sexes, for we are all the heirs of Adam and Eve. MGTOWs are as foolish as feminists.
Thankfully God also gave us hope…but I am not interested in women anymore.

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Hell no

Paraphrasing the admirable James A. Donald, the West of the 18th century considered women so lacking in continence that they would crawl through nine miles of broken glass to fornicate with their demon lover if not restrained by their husbands, fathers, brothers and pastors. In Egypt, a sexist, homophobic, hopelessly backwards Islamic society, girls living alone, beyond the reach of their family, are assumed to be whores. The Egyptians, I think, are not as backwards as we chauvinistically presume, since it seems their intuition about the behavior of unrestrained females has been more than comprehensively vindicated by the state of Western society today, where all girls can live alone (and do much more besides) — and where all girls are whores. Feminism failed. Modernity failed. We got women’s liberation and ubiquitous technology of unimaginable power and complexity, and the result was not a new Golden Age for civilization, but a new Golden Age for depravity.

“Modern,” “enlightened,” “liberal,” protestations aside, the situation in the West of 2015 is clear. Females can live alone, vote, run for office, commit infanticide, get away with murder, work men’s jobs, receive preferential treatment in universities and corporations, deny fathers their children, ruin innocent men with false accusations of rape & assault, and almost anything else they want to do — with the full support of the educational system, the media and the exponentially-expanding police-surveillance state. The dream of women’s liberation has been achieved, and then some. And then some. And then some more. And even some more after that! Females can live alone, unlike in Egypt. Females can live alone, and they do exactly what our 18th century forefathers, and 21st century Egyptian fellows a continent away intuited that they would do — they whore themselves. “Women’s liberation.” Women’s liberation is women’s prostitution. We should have known better.

If I miraculously became the Supreme God-Dictator of the West tonight, and upon finishing my gourmet breakfast of bacon, eggs and the finest Caspian caviar the next morning, I issued an edict that no woman may live alone, what would happen to the West’s marriage and divorce rates? The fertility rate? The bastardy rate? The amount of fornication, adultery, pornography and sexual perversion? The number of broken families? The number of kids shuffling between Mommy’s house and Daddy’s house on alternating weekends? (Or, more likely, just watching Mommy shuffle boyfriends while Daddy contemplates the taste of gun metal with a restraining order trembling in his hand.) What would happen to the rates of suicide, teen pregnancy, alcoholism, mass shootings, herbivore men, sexually transmitted diseases, eating disorders, self-radicalization, depression, gambling, drug abuse, obesity, cat-lady spinsters, gang violence, self-harm, ethno-religious tension (and violence), juvenile delinquency, social alienation and hollow shambling wrecks of human beings one missed medication away from walking off the edge of a thirty-story building?

…

Quite simply, if we put every woman back in the home, back next to the hearth, and gave her one son and one daughter to educate, civilize, inform, teach, nourish, protect, cultivate, cuddle, cherish and love, what would happen to our society? What if we gave her a fit, cultured, intelligent and loving husband who could teach his son baseball and read Cinderella to his daughter? A husband who didn’t spend his boyhood drugged out on ADD medications, his teenage years drugged out on cannabis, and his young adulthood drunk out of his mind? A husband who was taught to appreciate Beethoven, recognize Van Gogh’s Starry Night, recite a little poetry in French, and recognize a Biblical quote in Ancient Greek? A husband who was taught to shoot a gun, punch a drunkard, row a canoe, and hike up a mountain without complaining? Who kept a library where the television might’ve been, and who knew who his father was, his grandfather, and their fathers and grandfathers before them? Who worshiped the same God as his most distant ancestors, and lived on the very same land they conquered long ago? Who maintained and honored the inheritance bequeathed to him by his forefathers, both material and spiritual, and left it in better condition than he received it, and passed it on to his own sons and daughters? Might we see a resurgence of the stable, loving family? Might we actually see — trigger warning – a better society?

(This is by Mark Yuray)

definitely are quite a few in my Latin Mass parish. beautiful, wear a mantilla, etc. go to the more conservative parishes. i went to one parish and i saw two asian guys, i was like oh brothers together at mass. after receiving communion, they gay kissed each other. i couldn't believe it. never went back there again. go to conservative parishes you'll find amazing girls with good values. they'll love to see young people who are devoted too. could get someone out of your league that way. but please do it for the right reasons of course.

I'm in the same boat as a young Lutheran single (incel) man. There are so few women ever remotely near the church, and the few that are are either too young (16 is technically legal in my state, but you'd lose every court case practically speaking as I am 23), taken, or non-tradtional/non-chaste. It really sucks and I've been considering looking into investigating katholisch women. I'm not sure how to do that, but I knew a pastor who saved his wife from her papist ways.

There are basically no young girls in the church. I go to one of the few churches that aren't going modernist as describes, and there are simply no women. We do not take kindly to their thottery and sluttery that their default state is.

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Women cannot be trusted to have freedom, as they will always do things that favor the short-term as opposed to the long. For more that 1000 years, fathers owned women until they gave them to their husbands. All the sudden in the last 50 years this isn't OK anymore? JFL.

Where at? Tell me. I've met like maybe 4 or 5 in 23 years. Need to get married tbh.

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Well that's disappointing to hear.

Interesting, I'll have to find a traditional parish. I don't desire or expect to find anyone out of my league… I'm tall, thin, and decent looking, and haven't had trouble attracting women in the past.
The problem lies with finding women that aren't pooh-tier. I suppose I'll continue to bide my time and keep praying for God to bring a good Christian woman into my life.

My current church is indeed modernist. There's tons of young women there, but the ones I've met are either married or thots.
Otherwise, the men there are generally decent Christians, which is probably why I haven't left it yet.

lol'd
it's a shame, but still lol'd