1950s America - what went wrong?

NY during Easter of 1956

What went wrong Zig Forums how did we go from this to where we are now in the matter of a few decades? Is there any way to make the West Christian again?

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You can do what they did in the 1950s and make everyone terrified of the godless russians.

Nowdays its reversed

You haven't guessed we're living in the end times yet?
We're witnessing the prelude to apocalypse. And before anyone says "people have been saying this for 2000years" you probably dob't understnad how F*CKED UP the world has become in a little less than 50years.
There has never been so much impiety and "degeneracy" (in a real non-Zig Forums fashion) in history and yet we've conquered the land, the sea, and even space.
We're the archetypal figure of the "giant", just like the men who were once wiped out by the flood.

For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man

You can't save the world anymore. You can only save yourself and those close around you

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ITT babbies growing up on Fallout

More 1950s TV featuring religious figures

Bishop Sheen

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Sister Mary Christina

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The wrong side won the war

Maybe so, but the whole reason the US was so overtly Christian in the 1950s was to deliberately separate itself from the "godless communists". Prior to the Cold War, the US was extremely secular and returned to that secular mindset once the Cold War ended in the 1990s.

But we were nothing of the sort. What are you on about?

This, combined with no-fault divorce, has turned the modern world into a nightmare.

Hmm yes I wonder what went wrong…

Whiter than you, Muhammed.

I'm a US Catholic and I'm impressed it lasted till the 60s when cultural marxism went in full swing.

All significant change in a society starts at the level of its elites. In the West, our elites and the culture at large have undergone a slow conversion from the worldview and social conditions of Christendom to those of the present state, where a new religion based upon individual man and his material progress shapes and centers all major cultural decisions. In terms of the populace on the other hand, a similar conversion has happened but through subtler means than perhaps at other times in history, through means such as mass media, weaponized psychology (Sigmund Freud, Edward Bernays, Wilhelm Reich), social engineering through technology and judicial fiat (the Interstate Highway System, the Sexual Revolution), and systems of education. Quite the juggernaut. Do what you can to strive against this tide but do also understand it and its considerable power to compromise and convert.

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We gave tiggers and jews the benefit of the doubt.

It’s like the old adage says: Hard Times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times. We live in an age of unparalleled luxury and ease thanks to modern technology and medecine, and thus people grow fat and lazy both physically and spiritually. Why go to church and actually try to make your country better when you could sit at home eating junk food and jerking it to hentai? Also (((education))) is widely available, and when coupled with the above, edgy faggots have more access to spread lies and degeneration.

TL;DR: True Christianity takes too much effort for most lazy amerimutts.

Germany was the worse thing to ever happen to Christianity and Europe.

This board is weird sometimes

No need to beg it, m8, the US was probably about as religious as it is now. The 1920s were a boom time for immorality and self-centredness, and the depression had failed to strip people of such tendencies. The war seemed to do the trick. At least on the surface.

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This is a great essay which will likely not please any American Protestants but it's the truth. I will quote from it some:

"Several important aspects of American Christianity can be traced to seventeenth-century England. As the Catholic religion was violently suppressed by the monarchy, an increasingly Protestantized culture eliminated nearly all loci of the supernatural save God Himself, as beliefs in the apparitions of saints, angels, and demons, as well as the effects of sacraments and other rituals, were harshly derided as papist superstition and priestcraft. In a significant departure from continental Protestantism, English theology, following Berkeley, came to focus on the act of belief rather than God in history. Arguments for the existence of God followed the stoic philosophers instead of Aquinas, using the argument from design, which relied on subjective perception instead of objective metaphysics. English religion became grounded in subjectivity, rather than objective historical or philosophical claims. This was a dangerous approach, as it made no appeal to the continuity between generations responsible for the perpetuation of a common sense of duty, truth and goodness.

At the end of the seventeenth century, a more intensely subjectivist form of Christianity known as “pietism” arose in Germany, when Lutheran preacher Philipp Jakob Spener (1635-1705) proclaimed a radically antidogmatic and antiecclesiastical Christianity, which was condemned by Lutheran churches. Spener's emphasis on the “attitude” and religious “sentiment” of Christians as more important than any formula for belief or ecclesiastical organization was foreign to any major form of Christianity that had hitherto existed. Here was born the familiar American evangelical idea that Christianity is essentially and primarily a “relationship,” not a "religion," and that this relationship is more important than dogmatic orthodoxy or ecclesiastical obedience or ritual orthopraxis. Intellectually barren pietism did not succeed in Germany, but one of its offshoots, quakerism, found fertile soil in the United States. Pietism also found favor among some of the eighteenth-century English, in the form of Wesley's Methodism, which focused on emotional responses as proofs of spirituality, so that the educated classes regarded Methodists as fanatics. Methodist fervor was famously satirized in Wuthering Heights in the character of the Rev. Jabes Branderham, though we can see that Methodists still had a strong belief in objective norms of behavior, their professed anti-dogmatism notwithstanding.

The widely influential German philosopher Immanuel Kant (1724-1804), raised in a Pietist household, turned religion completely inward toward the realm of human subjectivity, appealing to man's supposedly innate capacity to sense the Infinite. His thought has had a profound effect on religion in the English-speaking world, which has largely retreated into fideism and abandoned the project of expounding the objective reality of religious truths. Most have adopted Kant's belief that religious feeling and ethics are more important than cosmological explanations and ritual. Kant was so convinced that the human mind was the only locus of the divine on earth, that he would not enter a Catholic church, because he was convinced that the Sacrament was the one place where God was not. Ironically, many American Catholics, while assenting to the Real Presence, nevertheless espouse a Kantian form of religion that, carried to its logical conclusion, would restrict divine action to the human soul."

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"Since the founding of the United States, the nation's cultural development has been heavily informed by the bourgeois ethics of liberal capitalism, a system of political economy developed in direct opposition to traditional Christian institutions. Ironically, the most "conservative" elements in the United States tend to advocate liberal capitalism most strenuously, so that American conservatism founders on an internal contradiction. The same people who strive to preserve traditional culture, society, religion, and ethics also advocate the most culturally corrosive agent in existence. Liberal capitalism, the belief that human relations should be primarily defined by market relations, has done more to destroy traditional religion than any dictatorship. The Christian in the United States faces an extraordinary challenge, since in his country the ethics of capitalism is practically taken for granted.

Economic liberalism first developed among the Protestant nations, particularly England, where the monarchy was especially weak. The liberals, or Whigs, were opposed by aristocratic interests who sought to control commerce through corporations possessing privileges from the state. The American Revolution essentially represented a triumph of Whig politics in the American continent. This was reflected by the complete abolition of corporations, trade guilds, and aristocratic titles or privileges. By dismantling traditional means of regulating the economy, the way was opened to allow market relations to dominate society. Prior to the eighteenth century, the regulation of prices and wages to an amount that was "just" was a universal phenomenon. With the feudal system dismantled, a new form of coercion developed through unbridled competition.

In the United States, laissez faire capitalism did not reach its full potential until the last half of the nineteenth century. During the Civil War era, most of the Revolutionary-era prohibitions against corporate entities were abolished, enabling the creation of a new privileged class which entrenched itself through the ruthless logic of the markets. This was the era of classical liberalism, when economists unashamedly asserted that a bare subsistence wage was the "natural wage" for unskilled labor, and large market shares allowed massive corporations to drive competition out of business. Entire towns were built by companies for their workers, who spent their meager wages at company stores. This neo-feudal culture lasted until the trusts were broken up at the turn of the century."

"The United States of America was the first nation in Christendom to deliberately exclude the Christian religion from its political constitution. All the nations of Europe and America then recognized Christianity in some form. The King of England was the head of the Church of England. The King of France was the "most Christian king," while the king of Spain was the "most Catholic king," and the Holy Roman Emperor was the Protector of the Church. The United States consciously banished Christianity from its political identity, confirming this intention in the Treaty of Tripoli (1797): "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." This treaty was unanimously approved by the Senate and proclaimed by President John Adams.

While the revelation that the United States was not founded on Christianity may be scandalous to conservative evangelicals who would like to remake the Founding Fathers in their own image, it is not at all surprising to those familiar with the religious and philosophical beliefs of the Founders, who commonly indulged in deism and freemasonry. While few of them would have supported the radical secularism of today's liberal judges who ban any religious expression at public expense, they were all wary of institutionalized churches like the Church of England, and wished to prevent any sect from having privilege over others.

The result, of course, was that no church in America was ever powerful enough to challenge the authority of the state, which did not regard itself as bound by any Christian principle. This conceit infects even social conservatives, who do not consider constitutional interpretations to be bound by natural law, nor regard foreign policy as constrained by just war criteria. This political liberalism, espoused even by so-called conservatives, is the natural complement of economic liberalism. American culture is so thoroughly indoctrinated with the belief that religion ought to play no role in politics, that we are incapable of appreciating what a radically heterodox idea that was only two centuries ago.

Many Americans consider the separation of church and state to be among their greatest contributions to the world, as if it cured the problem of religious warfare. The reality is that religious wars had already ended by the early eighteenth century, while the secularist movement, begun in France, created untold bloodshed in the name of enlightenment and democracy. To this day, many nations in Europe and America give state recognition to one or more churches, yet none of these nations have had religious warfare in centuries. The religious wars of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries were in large part the result of the ruinous principle that a people should follow the confession of its prince. This all-or-none approach to religious belief in a literate age was a recipe for conflict, so even the most theologically rigorous recognized the need to at least tolerate religious minorities."

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Plenty of money for helping screw Europe two times, still not degenerate though.
I agree 50s seem to be like a great age but: America was on a slippery slope then. If you could go all over again you would get the same result.

US has been godless for a long time before that. That's why it had no problem with Soviet union prior to "muh cold war". If somebody is your enemy you do not build his whole industry before and during world war. Also US having no problem with communists in Mexico is a similar story.

First US was not founded on Christian principles. It was secular from the beginning, created by various european peoples. The fact they were mostly protestant - which gave way to cancer known as secularism says a lot. Underrated post btw . Not founding the nation on christian principles and not being a homogenous ethnic group - a nation - is what went wrong. From thenthe mistakes piled up because of "the americalism", the "muh liberty" principles.
I am not saying Americans are bad people. But America is founded on entirely wrong principles. In every way.

This is such a steaming pile of garbage I don't know where to start
No, it just confirms your biases

Since you obviously know what the real truth is to the point where refutation is out of the question, don't keep us in suspense. Enlighten us.

Why don't you debunk it if it's just a pile of garbage? I'll tell you why…because it's truth.

based and redpilled.
Saved, thank you user. I realized about 50% without even reading this but this summed it up pretty well

Stop with the end time prophecies. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour." Matthew 25:13. One should makes sure to have themselves and their loved ones prepared for the second coming if it should happen in their lifetime, but to continually throw out these end time prophecies invariably leads to them being wrong and the possibility of your faith and others faith to be jeopardized by doubt.