Dying grandpa wants to be euthanized

My grandfather is dying and is in grave pain. Unable to walk and being barely able to lift his arms, he begged me to get him euthanized. He wants out of the pain.

Bros, what should I do?

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Thou shalt not murder

Not this.


This

Have him get on as much pain relief as he can. Then ask if he can be taken off life support and let him come by death naturally.

Pain "produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint … "

But, nah, yeah, I get it … he's a nonnie.
This is the sane and merciful approach: fwiw

Please respond if you're still here OP

Would he naturally die if not given medication or any sort of life support? If so then you could let him naturally die, but if you do anything outside of that its murder

I can't believe this is honestly a question for you. People die all the time, your Grandfather isn't suddenly going to 'get younger' and start running marathons…why in the world would you consider prolonging his life via life support and medication? Make enough pain medicine available to him in order for him to end his own life and GET OUT OF THE WAY.


What an absolutely horrid line of reasoning. Do you think lab animals that are dissected while still living are refining their hope? How cruel can you be to force a person to endure suffering so that YOU can congratulate yourself and pat yourself on the back about your morals and ethics. Horrendous! Absolutely horrible. A book has superseded your own ability to reason and display compassion to Life.

That's what a doctor's entire purpose is: to maintain life
Animals don't have immortal souls, so they naturally can't have hope. Of course, torturing animals is still ethically wrong on the grounds that they do experience pain and can suffer too.
Despite what you may think, that still makes you responsible for his death. You knew he wanted to die and you made the means available. The blame for his death is not a suicide at that point, but a murder by negligence.
How arrogant must you be that you think anyone should have the ability to dictate when someone dies? Just because someone has a broken leg doesn't mean we shoot them in the head or let them shoot themselves, that's asinine.
Life is not merely the pursuit of pleasures and avoidance of pain, as your statement implies to be your standpoint. Pain is an important part of life, and it allows us to develop and to come to terms with things we otherwise never would have. You don't know what kind of good and come from pain, and so you act like pain automatically is bad. Reassess your viewpoints and come back.

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No, a doctors purpose is to make money for himself so that he can pay off his student loans and buy a big car/house/boat. Doctors don't care about people, they care about their paycheck. When was the last time you heard about a 'drs strike' because the system was fraudulent and immoral? You wake me up when you hear of one, OK.

Just give him what he wants you modern(read:retard) child.
He's a grown ass man and knows what he wants and needs. And what the winnie the pooh is the point of letting him live anyway? Because the family likes him? If yes you monsters are selfish as winnie the pooh, he is in pain.

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This.
As someone who watched for years while ethical doctors experimented (aka caused irreparable pain and damage) to someone I love, even though their disease was incurable I tend to think that people who are 'at the mercy' of the modern man and his medicine are often the most wretched of all of the subjects on this planet. Under no circumstances would MERCY be granted to them because THAT would be 'unethical' in their eyes.
I shared my story with another doctor once and they reacted to the story with absolute horror and proclaimed it to be totally unethical (yeah…no shit sherlock). The 'rod' of Asclepius strikes again on the bare back of the defenseless, aged, suffering and broken.

No, that's what a job is for, not a doctor. A doctor exists to protect life. Jobs exist to generate income for the worker and labor for the industry.
I'd love to see it, if only a whole lot of people's very lives didn't depend on their skill and knowledge in order to survive illness to recover from injuries. A lack of physicians is not an inconvenience, it is a deadly idea that anyone who thinks for half a second would dismiss as being not worth the risk.

Oh god, a catholic lovely.

I appreciate the lack of an argument.
Polite sage to avoid derailing OPs thread anymore. I'm sorry to hear that your grandfather is suffering, my friend. I don't know where you are now, but know that I'll pray for you and your grandfather, and that I love you.

Lack of argument doesn't mean I have changed my mind. You have a lot to learn about REAL suffering user.

I mean no disrespect but this post actually sounds like a post from a demon. Even saying get out the way like that implies that you are actively seeking to get people to kill themselves and thus damn themselves. We are getting in your way and it seems you hate this.

I notice posts like this frequently on this board and it makes me wonder if demons can use the internet or not.

Either way begone from this board in the name of the Lord.

Can it, will you. It is common sense, empathy and ethics that you are allergic to not demons.

No one outside of Catholics are damned for killing themselves and that is because they have submitted to blood drinking and cannibalism at their behest of their Lord, 'the pope' and are under his instruction rather than Gods. Otherwise YOU ALL would be damned 24/7 for the subversive methods you use to murder your own bodies. Overeating, drinking, eating meat, sexual impurity (porn etc)…etc etc
IF GOD IS MERCIFUL, WHY ARE YOU PROMOTING SUFFERING

Euthanasia of Humans is a sin
t. Catholicism

This is the best bait I have seen in a while.

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Well, refute it then…I wouldn't mind if you have something to say other than teasing me.

So many atheists and LARPagans have descended on this thread.

I don't see any atheists or LARPagans. Which ones are they?

When I was in intense pain to get a surgery I said kill pls several times, did I mean it? Of course not.
Once your grandpa gets better he'll thank God for being alive.

You are obligated by mercy to provide him with food, drink and shelter. Anything else is extraordinary and can be withdrawn. Don't murder him though, or it is you who will have to answer for it to the Lord as well as your grandad for committing suicide

Is this the right board? I tried going to Zig Forums

You mean the right of the INDIVIDUAL rather than the catholic church or the communist state to decide for themselves what is correct? How does this not fit with Christs teachings that one appeals to GOD ALONE and not 'religion' or other men for their life, decisions, and choices. What kind of communist nanny state handholding frankly bullshit are you looking for in this situation? Are you a jew or something that you think you have to 'make all men in your own image' for them to SEE GOD? What is wrong with you? Literally…I mean, really, what is wrong with you as a person? The OP's Grandpa has a right to choose for himself what he desires in Life.

Suicide is a mortal sin. The right of the individual you're talking about is the right to consign yourself to an eternity in hell.

The law of God is written on our hearts and Jesus set out to create his own religion when he gave the keys of heaven to peter. Maybe try reading the bible, then you'd know you can't get to the Father without going through Christ. You'd also know about loving your neighbor as yourself.

Repent sower of iniquity.

Point to the place in the bible that says suicide is a mortal sin"…this is CATHOLIC DOCTRINE" and the catholics are basically pharisees (so they are ZOG/Fallen Angels). People make choices all day long…Jesus chose Martyrdom, that is basically suicide…do you think he is 'in hell'? You people aren't very clever, or really critical thinkers when it comes to religion are you? Too bad…

Whoa…look at those digits…that is wild.

Jesus didnt directly kill himself. He allowed others to kill him to fulfill Gods will.
Judas killed himself. Judas is most definately in hell.
Samson killed himself but it was to fulfill God's will and God facilitated it. He's likely in heaven.

Why are prots so full of venom against the catholic church? Oh right they're heretics.

Fallen angels are literal demons. Why are you so misinformed about everything.
Wat

Yeah we're so dumb lmao.
[Summa theologia intensifies]

Au contraire mon amie…he knew quite well that the Fallen were planning on killing him and he went ANYWAY, just as he knew that one of his apostles was going to betray him. That is suicide! If I jump out a window is it the ground that kills me, or my own actions? You are not paying attention AGAIN. What can I say at this point?