I want to do gay conversion but im scared

Lol.
Good for you user.
Read this for tactics building, I guess.
Fighting gays in times like these is a high order.

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You don't even realize how much your worldview is shaped by this social construct. Who says that sex is that important? So what if you lose your libido.

Producing offspring is an important biological function but your system is already facing critical failure in that regard - you've got nothing to lose from a purely biological standpoint.

You've got nothing to lose from a religious standpoint either, that says sex not performed for the right reasons should not be performed at all.

The worldview that sex is the most important aspect of our life, well, sure- but if you believe that, why are you even here? Go out and be a hedonist and give up eternity.

Ignore

You might take a look at this guy, Robert Oscar Lopez: englishmanif.blogspot.com/

I used to read more articles by him when he focused more on politics, but now he seems to focus on helping "gay identifying" men. He seems pretty authentic, and is pretty smart, and is pretty forthright about his experiences in life.

I wouldnt think this was a troll thread if 90% of conversion camps werent shutdown.

Just become a Catholic priest, they have loads of homos already.

I think he means that he's worrying about it making him having no sexual attraction at all.

Asexuality sounds very liberating, actually.

Trust me, it's not.
You still have urges you just don't get aroused. It's like being impotent.

God made you to have homosexual tendencies. Your cross is to either go through life celibate. I would advise not getting a wife, as someday you may abandon your children, also homosexuality is hereditary.

Most of them were sexually abused as a child.

Heresy.

God doesn't make people into sodomites. People do that to themselves.

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Then their homosexuality is not their fault. If that is the case, most homosexuals are simply innocent victims and not deserving of the hatred that most on this board advocate.

It's pretty obvious at this point that people are born with same-sex attraction.

It pretty obvious at this point that God doesn't make people into sinners. If one can pray the faggotry away, than faggotry isn't genetic, it's a choice.

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Being a homosexual is not a sin, homosexual acts are a sin. Homosexuality is completely natural. You can't pray your sexuality away anymore than you can pray your arm away.

You can't be a sodomite unless you commit sodomy. God doesn't make people into sinners. If He did than Him vaporizing Sodom & Gomorrha would make Him unjust. Which is HERESY.

God purposefully making people into unrepentant sinners just so He can punish them in Hell is damn near gnostic and outright WRONG.

Think about your life choices and REPENT.

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Some morons think global warming is real too. It's "obvious" to fedoras that Christianity isn't real. Go peddle your post-modernity elsewhere.

Faggotry is a sin.

If one is abused and becomes a homosexual through no fault of their own, why would God punish them?

In the 1950s, women given anti-miscarriage drugs had daughters with a higher-than-average rate of lesbianism. Is God going to punish them for something they had no control over?

Also, define "faggotry".

In any year, faggotry is a sin.

Thanks for the stimulating intellectual discussion, guys.

Because they chose to stay victims. They chose to be sodomites long after the abuse ends. They than spread their sin to others or abuse others, perpetuating the cycle of sin and suffering.
If we take your logic to the next step, than me being an alcoholic shouldn't be a sin if it helps me forget the trauma of my father beating me with pic related.
Me spewing profanity twords God and His Church ought to be excused because a catholic clergyman raped me and several others.

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how horrible :(

Pretty retarded reply.
According to you, homosexuals are created through abuse. There is a flipped switch in the brain to make them attracted to the same sex, through no fault of their own. They are now in a state of sin through a process which they were forced to go through. Also according to you, it is now their responsibility to figure out how to flip this switch back to the correct position and if they don't, they are punished forever.

Again, gay conversion therapy is a thing and it works. There is plenty of testimony and plenty of ex gays out there absolutely debunking the "gay gene" (((myth))) modernists spew.

Faggotry is and will always be a choice.

virtueonline.org/gays-can-change-reparative-therapy-works

josephnicolosi.com

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This is Freudian psychoanalytic nonsense. I can see why it’s banned.

The best thing to do is to either find a wife if you think you’re bisexual, or to simply live a celibate life. I’m not just saying that because no sex is better than gay sex, but also because if you couple being celibate with trying to live closer to nature (like even just taking walks when you have disconcerting thoughts), you will start to really see how the natural world really is and what God designed in a new light. No matter what, I’m gonna pray for you and all the other men and women on this board who might be struggling with the same thing.

>people that converted away from the sin of sodomy are just tricked by (((Freudian))) psychoanalysis and never really recovered

The absolute state of modernists.

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can God cause himself to cease to exist?

Why would God ever want to do that?
Why would God ever need to do that?

He doesn't and won't, and I don't think it's possible

< Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.
< For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
< For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul? (Matt 16:24-26)

What do you think your "cross" may be? Do you think everyone has the same cross to bear?

In light of this, do you think you could, for Christ's sake, you could bear whatever burden He gives you, regardless the cost?

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This guy was a homosexual and big activist until his 40s. In the early 90s, he was a big proponent of gay marriage in a small Midwestern city when it would have been odd to do so. I knew of him, and I was shocked to learn how he had changed. I had just assumed he would be a furry or something these days.

He talks candidly about it, calling it a "gay death style."

americansfortruth.com/2016/02/02/former-homosexual-darren-foster-coming-out-of-sodom-part-1/

I don't think people are born gay. There are probably biological components in some people that make them more susceptible to gay behavior, but environment and abuse can make it emerge.

If you raised kids in a commune away from civilization, and constantly told them homosexuality was the only way to be, and they constantly saw homosexual behaviour, some of them would engage in homosexual behaviour. At some point, some kid would figure it out, but my point is you can make people gay in a way.

My advice: Stop looking at porn if you do. Don't look at heterosexual porn with a dude in it either.

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That is one billboard that the gay community do not want you to tolerate, want you to see, or want to exist in any of the multiverses or eleven dimensions

This idea – that gays can not be gay – gets gays more riled up than any other concept in all creation.
Donnie McClurkin was banned from attending some MLK50 event because he even dared suggest that, in his personal experience, he got over teh gay as a result of molestation … something he said SIXTEEN YEARS AGO …

They have long and vindictive memories, these precious, wilting flowers of teh gay

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you question the words of the mighty jimmy?

I should add that he changed a few years ago, at precisely the time society's insanity was speeding up. If a dedicated gay activist can do it, you can to, but I think you need to go on a journey of sorts. There is no shortcut to wisdom.

This is missing much of the nuance of the argument for biological homosexuality. Twins share all the same genes, but often one has a higher IQ than the other. This happens because they compete for blood flow from the mother in the womb, the one who gets more of the mothers blood ends up being more intelligent. Also, having a homosexual twin is gives one the greatest chance of being a homosexual oneself.

No, it eliminates the genetic argument that people still use.

It does for people who don’t know—or who don’t want to know—what they’re talking about. There are all sorts of biological traits that are different between identical twins, despite sharing the same genes (except for random mutations ofc).

Btw, the successful conversion therapy is simply having gay people abstaining from sex, not changing their sexuality (which is impossible).

No it's not, it actually makes a lot of sense and many people have been healed.

Gay conversion therapy is not standardized. Some might use drugs while others use other techniques (I read this from a website). If you can abstain from sexual contact/relationships with men, then that would do you very good especially with prayer. But if sexual conversion therapy doesn't involve any destructive practices to your body or any sinful acts, then that would be worth a try as well.

Be careful and may God be with you.

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BTW, what makes you aroused by a man? Is it largely psychological or is it that you're attracted to men's bodies?

Shoo shoo faglover, this is the Christian board

It doesn’t make any sense. Most of “conversion therapy” involves showing people pictures of men touching and shocking them or using something to burn them with cold. Also, the entire idea that one can change behavior using psychology, especially something as innate as sexuality, is simply nonsense. This has been shown to not be possible. Most of the “success” of gay conversion, as you can see from testimonials from ex-gay ministries, is that they are abused enough to not want to have physical relationships, though they are still attracted to the same sex. “Conversion therapy” is simply inhumane nonsense.

So if the faggots CANT change than I guess Leviticus 20:13 is the only option.

Jokes aside, through God all things are possible . To say that one CANT stop being a sinner is straight up WRONG.

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Regardless, it's only one of a library of facts that demonstrate that gay is as often a choice as it is anything deeper, therefore, for at least some, it is un-choose-able, a fact that the militant gay community refuse to countenance. (I do make allowance for a minority who are, it seems, irreversibly, gay and choose instead to bear it as their cross for Christ's sake.)

I know because I remember when plenty of gays in the 80s mocked their fellow gays who insisted that it was "genetic" and they couldn't control it. But, being a choice is politically unpalatable. It is a better platform to argue for "rights" when you can insist that "we were born like this". And then, when the rights are cemented and no one debates this anymore, the militancy will relax, and – mark my words, for I guarantee it – there'll be a whole world of studies "proving" that teh gay is just psychology and choice, but by then everyone will be willingly choosing to be bisexual because it won't be stigmatised like it is now. (Even bi's are not allowed to "be themselves" in the LGBTQCFMROAZX community. You've got to "pick a side" if you want to argue for rights. So bi's hide.)

It will come to pass. But, first … first they have to get rid of those of us who say it's a choice and a sin.

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The cure for homosexuality was discovered in 1972; just stick a wire in the brain's reward center and hit it with electricity at the same time as you put on straight porn to condition the patient to associate pleasure with normal sexual activity.

books.google.com/books?id=HelFBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA109

Of course, the liberal establishment never showed any interest in the technique and now it lies mostly forgotten.

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This is a leftist meme. Its true that in fringe cases they use things like shock therapy, but the vast majority of conversion therapy is just talking, similar to anxiety/depression/ADHD/whatever other mental illness

This is idiotic and selfish advice. Countless gay men have led closeted lives with a wife who they are not attracted to. The wife usually ends up miserable and feeling unloved. Why drag her into OP's troubles? Why encourage him to live a lie? Not only are you robbing her of her best years, when she could be in a happy mutually loving marriage with someone who is attracted to her, you're also taking away a potential wife from another Christian who would actually be able to treat her right. Now if OP is attracted to women at all, he will know it. If he is well into his teens and doesn't get erections or other signs of arousal around women or from thinking of women, it's not gonna magically happen when he puts on a wedding ring. Maybe he will be able to force himself to put up with having sex with her, if he thinks about dudes. It's still a recipe for disaster. Now, if conversion therapy can actually change someone's inclinations (a big if, I've heard it has a high rate of failure) then great! Once he has been converted and knows he is attracted to women, go ahead and marry one (if you are sure you are not just deluding yourself). But do not marry a woman before the attraction has started! What are you thinking giving this terrible, life-ruining advice? Use your brain.

btw, sorry, this was more aimed at

than at

Zig Forums was always full of sodomites who are drawn to the pretty dresses and costumes of Catholicism, but afraid of the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist opposition towards sodomy.

ok if i have a twin brother who is retarded and im not does that mean nobody is born retarded,or what if my twin is born blind and i can see does that mean nobody is blind

That's.. that's not how any of that works.

You're not a homosexual unless you commit homosexual acts, which are sinful. So homosexuals are sinners, you retard. Actually imagine being this stupid. Fix your life and repent.