"there is plenty of time for repenting later"

I don't believe that. If Jesus really is as good as they say he is, I'm completely sure that he will open the eyes of my soul and fill me with understanding and save me no matter what. I'm just an imperfect human being and I can't see or understand everything all the time. Just some of the things some of the time. If I do my best and I end up in hell I'm confident that if Jesus really is as good as they come that I will be saved because of the fact that Jesus is good, not because I'm perfect (because I'm not)

If this is about purgatory, then I believe that space is reserved for those who already believe, whereas I feel like your statement is for heathens.

And yet there must also be good souls who simply have never heard of Jesus before, drowned out in the ocean of so many other false religions. Do those go to hell forever just because they didn't know? And please don't give me that "they would learn somehow!" I'm talking about the good souls who didn't learn somehow. If Jesus is good then they must be saved as well and there is infinite potential to learn in heaven.

It's not about what you believe or not, it's about the truth and truth is there's no saving you when you're already in hell.

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You cannot.

You could go with the old favourite: "You may die tonight", but I think it's more important to face the truth:
< But you will n e v e r do it. You are taking God's grace for granted, the grace that covers your sins. If you were really convicted of your sins, their stink would make you writhe and demand relief in Christ right now. But, you don't because you have no conviction of sin. So, what do you think will motivate you to seek Christ later, to repent, when there is no one around to present the gospel, no reason for you to walk in a church, no reason to seek such things out? Do you think you just wake up one morning and seek God? You need to seek Him when He can be found, or you never will.
< Your choice.

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sication needed
You're just condeming rats who dare limit God's kindness and have no idea about the philosophical aspects of eternity and mercy

Can you summarize that? I'm having trouble understanding.

You are not god, so who are you to decide that? You are not the authority of who is allowed into heaven are you?

If you can't be saved after death then that is a very roundabout way of implying that Jesus is powerless. If Jesus is all powerful then anyone can be saved whenever wherever.

If hell is off limits to Jesus then that implies that Jesus isn't all powerful. Get my point? If hell is too hot for Jesus to reach into and pull someone up and clean them of their evil, then there's something very wrong.

There's plenty of time to apologize to this guy here on the ground that I'm kicking. For now though I'll keep kicking, it feels just so damn good. Maybe I'll stab him a little too. But as soon as I'm done I'll apologize, I swear.

Life in the Kingdom of Heaven starts now. The sooner we get used to it, the better. If you had lived in the dirt your whole life and then converted at the last minute, then it'll be a painful process to shed your attachments in death.

I'm not preaching of Purgatory per se, but the original teaching behind it…first best explained by St. Macrina (sister/teacher of St. Gregory of Nyssa). As she was dying, she comforted her brother to not worry about her. She likened our lives to a man who built a house. At death, the house comes crashing down on us. Depending on your attachments to this world, it could be painful or not much at all. Boards could get lodged into your sides, furniture stabbing you, trapping you, or falling on your head. The Lord visits each man's house at death and pulls him out. For the one who was too attached to the world, it's going to be like hell pulling him out and cleaning him up. I'm sure from the Lord's perspective, this is all happening in an instant.. but to us, it would be almost unbearable and too long for comfort.

The day of the Lord in sacred Scripture, is understood to be the day of your death. There is no repentance in death, God is not the God of death, but of the living.

Otherwise, then you tell me even the demons can repent…and then, how can there even be demons, in the first place?

You are confused, the fires of Hell is the anger of God. It is not that God cannot subsist in Hell, but that He has set you (if you are damned), and Satan and all his angels aside from Him, forever.

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I know it's just theoretical but what if the kick-ee is a really bad guy?

If demons exist that haven't been saved it's probably because they are unwilling to repent. Not because it's impossible for them to be saved. Jesus can do anything.

That's interesting.

In this world around us, everything is themed in death. Every living thing including us that walks, grows, swims, crawls, or flys about the earth kills or hurts something else in order to live. Even vegans. All those things also eventually die one day of old age and natural causes and all that. So technically speaking, earth (our universe) is the universe themed of death. Technically speaking- we have never really truly lived yet. So- if you are correct and I believe you technically are that God is life based (good things) so to speak, then in dying on earth I believe it is in heaven with God where which we finally truly live for the first time and forever. Technically, to be reborn is to be born for the first time ever and finally. So to say there is no repentance in death may technically be truth in saying that you can't actually fully repend on death earth since you can not fully understand your repentance as an imperfect human being. It is likely that only in true final real life in heaven do we finally understand enough to truly and honestly repent. So repentance pre-death is technically less likely, and post-death (which is in real life in heaven) is likely the real repentance place.

This is one of my favorite parables because it’s an interesting use of dramatic irony. The parable goes on a bit, and you think it’s gonna continue like most parables where maybe the rich man or some landowner will represent God or something, but instead the almighty just shows himself to destroy the work of man
While a lot of people take this as a parable against the rich, and that makes sense because Jesus did say a lot of teachings against them. However, I’ve always taken this parable to be a representation of what I like to call divine futility: in the face of God, human accomplishments hold little weight or meaning. We need to make sure our soul will be in a good state when the reaper comes to collect it. The best time to repent was years ago, the second best time is now

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Okay lets say you're right. Would God ever set someone aside and away from him forever if God knew that persons soul was actually good? Misunderstandings occur ALL THE TIME, not with God because God knows everything and is all powerful. My point is that misunderstandings and humanity go together. I'm saying it's totally possible that a person had such a wild journey and tough life that it would be totally possible to be led down all the wrong paths and experience such horrors that they end up sort of kind of being well, evil rather unintentionally so and get to the end still suffering and in confusion and despair and ignorance. Would God not take the person and clean them up and save them rather than saying "nah I'll just toss them in the trash" if there is any actual goodness in their soul? Be honest.

If you're all about love then it would be a great deception to suddenly not be all about love as a surprise to someone who probably didn't deserve it. What you're arguing is that some people will just go to hell out of spite, not because of actual right and wrong. This way of thinking is flawed because it implies imperfection in Jesus. This is a problem because if someone is all knowing and all love and all good, they must be good and strong enough to make the right choice when it really comes down to the moment of judgement. It's a really big deal to throw someone into hell forever. That's very painful and lasts forever.

I really agree with what you said and I often feel that everything humanity does has no meaning. We're like ants to God right? I do believe that God has a plan and is all powerful and controls everything, that I definitely do believe.

What is the definition of repentance?

God gives sufficient grace to all human souls for their repentance here and now. A reminder what repentance means: sorrow for one's sins against God, leading to a change of heart and will. If you are not at all sorry for your own sins, then you simply have failed to repent. You will also nowhere find in the history of Christianity, in scripture nor in tradition, this idea of post-death repentance.

As for an explanation why, when we die, in short, we become as the angels, losing our bodies. This subsequent incorporeality means it is no longer possible for us to repent. See pic, then read further after the link:

edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2016/10/how-to-go-to-hell_29.html

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No. During this life we have to make a choice. A choice to live with God, or to live without God. He will honor our choice and give us an eternal life based on our decision.

God made several promises regarding this (Psalms 145:18, Proverbs 2:3-5, Matthew 7:7-11, Hebrews 11:6, James 4:8). Those who truly seek God, will find Him. If one doesn't find God and ends up in hell, then he is without excuse.

Damnation does in no way imply that God is unable to save someone from hell. If people don't want God in their lives, then they will have their wish fulfilled. God will give them an eternal life apart from Him.

It is my understanding (based on verses like Deuteronomy 1:39, Luke 12:47-48, John 9:40-41, John 15:22-24) that everyone will be judged by the standard of their knowledge. Paul says in Romans 2:12-15 that those without the law will be judged without the law. Whereby will they be judged then? By the law of their conscience. It is safe to assume that those without the knowledge of Jesus Christ, will be judged the same way. Jesus will not judge the world with equality, but with equity (Psalms 98:9).

God is wholly good by His very nature, which means that He will never tolerate evil. That is why hell exists: He will put the unrepentant away from Him.

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If you go to Hell, it will be because you do not want to be saved. Your attitude makes that clear - you can sin and disobey God all you want and never feel remorse for it, and you expect Him to allow you into his Kingdom anyway.

You're bargaining with God and placing yourself above Him by putting your own conditions on His grace when you say 'if he's so good then x'. Well what if he turns out not to be 'good' as you have deemed it, and he sends you to Hell and never forgives you? Does that mean He's evil? Because he can't be 'good' in your eyes if he doesn't forgive you. But guess what - God is good, and if you think He's evil then it's YOU who is evil. When you bargain like this, you are pretty much accusing God of being a liar.
So He must be lying then. This is where you demonstrate that you don't want a relationship with God.

So your thinking is backwards here and it's a very common error that people make. Hopefully the fact that you're on here asking the question is a sign that you're at least somewhat seeking God and will end up coming to Him.

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When a dog goes back to its vomit, it shows where his heart truly is.

olrl.org/snt_docs/num_sins.shtml

7. Listen, then, O sinner, to the admonition of the Lord: "My son, hast thou sinned? Do so no more, but for thy former sins pray that they may be forgiven thee" – Eccl. 21:1. Son, add not sins to those which you have already committed, but be careful to pray for the pardon of your past transgressions; otherwise, if you commit another mortal sin, the gates of divine mercy may be closed against you, and your soul may be lost forever. When then, beloved brethren, the devil tempts you again to yield to sin, say to yourself: If God pardons me no more, what shall become of me for all eternity? Should the Devil in reply, say: fear not, God is merciful; answer him by saying: What certainty or what probability have I that, if I return again to sin, God will show me mercy or grant me pardon? Behold the threat of the Lord against all who despise His calls: "Because I have called and you refused,…I also will laugh in your destruction, and will mock when that shall come to you which you feared" – Prov. 1:24, 26. Mark the words "I also"; they mean that, as you have mocked the Lord by betraying Him again after your confession and promises of amendment, so He will mock you at the hour of death. I will laugh and will mock. But, "God is not mocked" – Gal. 6:7. "As a dog," says the Wise Man, "that returneth to his vomit, so is the fool that repeateth his folly" – Prov. 26:11. Bl. Denis the Carthusian gives an excellent exposition of this text. He says that, as a dog that eats what he has just vomited, is an object of disgust and abomination, so the sinner who returns to the sins which he has detested and confessed, becomes hateful in the sight of God.

Plenty of people try really hard to be truly faithful servants of Christ and yet they fail, deceive themselves, constantly sin etc. If you’re deliberately putting off repentance until as late as possible, what assurance do you have that you’ll ever have true faith in Christ?

I'll just leave this here in any case.
orthodoxebooks.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/The River Of Fire - Doctor Alexandre Kalomiros.pdf

The point is that you're kicking yourself if you don't repent. To repent is to stop kicking. If the kickee is a really bad guy then you are damming yourself for circular reasons.

"Ill just have as much fun as I want right now"

"Okay I don't like this hell, I'm ready to settle down with God now."

"why wont he save me?"

BRUH! that reasoning is almost literally the equivalent of a spiritual roastie!

If mortal men don't want used harlot for life, why would the Lord want someone who never loved him until they saw how loaded his heavenly goodness wallet was?

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Why on earth would you want to waste any time at all when you can be healed and comforted in the love of Our Savior? Do yourself a big favor. REPENT!

This is extremely awful post, humanising God.

Its called an "analogy"

You cant justify an afwul post by saying it's an "analogy", especially when it is wrong to the core. What you said is, as desert fathers put it, as retarded as saying that sun hides itself from the blind.

First of all, the desret fathers never put anything like that anywhere.
Second of all, he's right, it's pure analogy.
Third, you're awful.

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We can die at any moment.

After death the only help is the prayers of the living and the grace of God. Effort is for life.

Hey cmon, no need for direct insults.

Ok You might have got me there.

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They have no excuse because they knew God's creation and worshipped animals; that's the gist of it.

Why would you repent later, and not now? God is the source of all good things, and reconciliation to Him is therefore the best thing that can happen.

It can only mean that he does not intent to repent, but invoke the recursive perpetual "tomorrow". One day, however, he will die, and tomorrow will not come.

I don't understand the theory. I thought angels had free will like us? This seems to imply they don't

Yeah, we take risk every time we leave our bed and every time we're asleep.

*Calvinistic screeching*

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