Germany Snubs Lockheed’s F-35 Because It SUCKS

Germany has snubbed Lockheed Martin's F-35 joint strike fighter, knocking the American stealth fighter of out of a tender worth billions of euros, the German Defense Ministry confirmed on Thursday. Germany's military is seeking to replace its aging Tornado warplanes, for which Boeing's F/A-18 Super Hornet and Airbus' NATO Eurofighter Typhoon remain contenders.

Should Germany go with the Eurofighter after announcing the F-35 out of the running, which was long rumored to have persistent mechanical and software glitches, this could have huge geopolitical consequences considering current multiplying issues of contention between the US and Germany, not least of which goes to the heart of NATO strategic nuclear readiness.

A final decision will be made pending delivery of detailed information from from Boeing and Airbus about their respective aircraft, which must be able to carry and deliver US nuclear weapons in accord with Germany's NATO obligations, and which further must be certified by Washington to carry the nukes.

This presents a number of potential fault lines that could crack open wide the US-German relationship, and with implications for broader NATO defense, especially related to German Air Force ability to carry American nuclear warheads.

However, it should be noted that Lockheed spokesman Mike Friedman said in an emailed statement published by Defense News that Lockheed has yet to be notified the F-35 has been dropped from consideration:

“We have not been officially notified of a decision on Germany’s future fighter. The F-35 delivers unmatched value as the most capable and lowest life-cycle cost aircraft, while delivering the strongest long-term industrial and economic opportunities compared to any fighter on the market. As the foundation of NATO’s next generation of air power, the F-35 is the most advanced aircraft in the world today, and includes Electronic Attack capabilities well beyond any specialized fourth generation aircraft.”

We reported previously via Rabobank's Michael Every the domino effect of worsening crises that could result at a time Germany and other EU leading countries feel increasingly emboldened to break from the Trump administration on a number of issues, foremost being the newly launched INSTEX alternate payment vehicle for Iran, intended to bypass US sanctions and the SWIFT system.

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everyone is just going to start building their own planes since no one wants to deal with onboard spyware and remote permission elevation to fly their shit

if the f35 was so good it would not be available for export

For some reason they seem to want it to fall into enemy hands.

I bet F-35 is a ploy and they made an actual good plane in secret.

Exactly this. The YF-23 never went beyond 2 prototypes, but they made the mistake of designing it to be high performance and low cost (rookie mistake Northrop!) so it never went beyond Gray Goose and Black Widow, pic related, and the entire field of jet fighters was damaged for potentially decades to come.

It is a ploy, a ploy that succeeded before the first production run even started. All it had to do was pad Lockheeds bottom line to meet every goal of the project. Why do you think they're freaking out at an unconfirmed story claiming that Germany *might* not want to buy the amazing flying lemon?

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Why replace old fighter with another old fighter? Especially when it's the part of any armed force that's their most technical, critical tool and with single most capacity to strike for effect.

Or, you know, the F-22. Witch isn't available to Nato.

…Witch…

You're overestimating the government and federal contractors. If you ever work with them you will find out that they are legitimately retarded.

It's just as fucking well too. Can you imagine how terrifying it would be, and how much damage they could do, if they were even half way competent?

What do you mean, for-profit corporations work, don't complain losers, start your own plane factories.

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MIT on murder watch

This debate is dumb because jet fighters are irrelevant in a first world conflict today. Have a good flight while a hyper sonic missile launched 2,000 miles away destroys the base or carrier you just took off from.

Holy fucking shit does US industry suck ass today.

Its almost a cancerous infection now plaguing the nation. We can only make "smart" crap that doesn't even work properly and no one wants.

And people tell me I'm a "kook" for sticking to 20-30 year old electronics? Hahahaha! At least my manual Maytag washer from the early 1960s STILL WORKS!

Better yet that money could have been spent building concentration camps to put the homeless in where they could be worked to death and finally contribute to civilization with their worthless lives.

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Actually, the better thing would be to use that to INVEST in infrastructure development so that homeless people can have a productive job, and provide a roof over their heads. Plus it would help the domestic economy and cities/towns would not be so dilapidated.

this, homeless people would ruint their 'free' houses

if homeless people could do productive work, they would be doing it now

Outsourcing began in the mid 80s dude. Millions of jobs were LOST as a result. Not to mention inflation takes a toll on those who are trying to make ends meat.

That is a bit severe but its certainly not naive like OPs image.
Most homeless people are mentally ill. Its a much more complex problem than 'just give them a house lol'.

My dude I know and have daily interactions with both social workers and homeless people. Trust me, the people who get homeless and stay homeless aren't being kept down by "the man". "The man" would be fucking overjoyed if these people could get jobs and start paying taxes, instead they are kept alive on charity in the vain hope that they won't rob, murder, and rape the public out of desperation. If you are an honest SANE person you do not stay homeless for long because there are numerous programs and retard-tier jobs out there that only require you to show up on time. Long term homeless are defective on a genetic level and generally some combination of crazy, obnoxious, or chronically lazy.

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