A Kansas judge has come under fire for saying in court that two girls–solicited by an online lonely old man looking to have sex with some hot jailbait,when they were 13 and 14–were partly to blame for what happened to them.
“I do find that the victims in this case, in particular, were more an aggressor than a participant in the criminal conduct,” Leavenworth County Judge Michael Gibbens said in remarks delivered at a December sentencing for a 67-year-old lonely old guy who paid for sex with the two girls, according to a report in the Kansas City Star.
The Star reported on Sunday that Gibbens ignored prosecutors in sentencing Raymond Soden to nearly six years in prison. Prosecutors said Soden had a prior conviction for battery and sexual battery and had asked that he be sentenced to more than 13 years in prison.
The paper reported that Gibbens explained his reasoning for the more lenient sentence by saying that the two girls went to Soden’s house voluntarily and took money from him for sexual favors.
“They were certainly selling things monetarily that it’s against the law for even an adult to sell,” he said, according to the paper, which obtained a transcript of the sentencing.
“Sexual assault is never the victim’s fault. It doesn’t matter what the girls did or didn’t do, he is still the adult and nobody deserves to be taken advantage of sexually,” Michelle Herman said, according to the paper.
In August, Soden pleaded no contest to a charge of electronic solicitation, a felony. He admitted knowing the younger girl was 13.
My uncle sodomised me contantly when I was a preteen
Childhood sexual abuse fucks up the victim possibly for life. Having "normal" sex can be very hard for the victim and they can pass on all kinds of mental health issues to their children.
It is a very sad domino effect. That's why I am all for locking these predators up for good from society.
Andrew Flores
Sex has never been able to be a normal healthy thing for me. You’re right. Flashbacks and memories are a cruel thing. I’m sorry about your as raping…that’s terrible. I hope they are having more good days than bad and are going to therapy. I won’t be having kids. My ptsd and major depression are my hell, why would I be selfish and pass on these things, and then being ill, I can barely take care of myself. I hope you yourself are doing well. Have a good week.
Brandon Moore
Imagine unironically believing that these children actually have the mental capacity to knowingly become prostitutes. Yeah, no. This is what you call grooming young girls and sugaring it up with money. Judge is an idiot.
Xavier Davis
I was a teacher for years. The shit these girls attempt is fucking disgusting. I blame there parents. These aren't jumprope skipping kids anymore. Sure many are still innocent but it's less and less with the passing generation. The old man should be executed and these girls should be charged too
Liam Bell
And by "these predators" I'm sure you're talking about money-hungry teens who prey on lonely old men. I agree. Take them off the streets where they can involuntarily give it up to other convicts. Then they'll understand what "sexual assault" actually means.
Ian Reed
You are an asshole OP
Life is hard enough and I could write a grocery list of horrible things that has messed me up. Truth be told I rarely feel the urge to be violent, but this triggers me. just saying the idea that someone took advantage of a child , put his penis in those young girl's vaginas… perhaps his tongue I would beat this monster
I'm so sorry user that your anus wa violated at such a young age the confusion, pain, mental scarring etc. is beyond wrong. I’m rambling but. If I could roll back the clock and help you as a child I would do it with hesitation. I’m sure that doesn’t help, but no it’s wrong and you didn't deserve it.
Ryder Allen
Their* Fucking autocorrect
Jonathan Hughes
I wouldn't go that far. That said, these girls ARE whores, and whether or not an old pervert took advantage, the point remains: those girls are full blown roasties that won't give up their roastie ways without Christ.
The judge ruled correctly. Roasties need to be treated like roasties.
Landon Richardson
No, the correct ruling would have been to jail them for prostitution and pimping.
Jordan Cox
This. Do people really think they'll turn into innocent children after this case? They'll go to another guy and do the same thing
Michael Jenkins
I stand corrected.
Jordan Lewis
Did he lick that little turdcunt of yours too? I bet your shit was tight.
William Watson
Uncle Rufus?
Kevin Reyes
hahahahaha!!!!
Ryder Mitchell
100% TRUE:
the 13 year year old & her sister testified in court that they intended on robbing the old piece of shit
Andrew Reed
That 13 year old whippersnapper pussypie sure does make you feel young again !!
Sexual rape of a short duration in absolute time is nothing compared to psychic/mental rape that cannot be escaped AND that is of a longer duration in absolute time
Perhaps the real criminal is the culture that teaches young women that the fastest way to get what they want is to spread their legs? The oldest profession in the book existed long before the concept of age of consent even did. Where does it honestly end? We have grown women crying they didn't consent, days after they blew an entire football team. Meanwhile, a teenager decides to pop it open for a few hundred dollars can't consent? Bullshit. I'm tired of this society. People are fully aware of what they're doing it's just that want to be free of the repercussions of their actions.
Implying even Jesus could stop them from being roasties now, no these girls were obviously victims at one point but in this context it's just not that simple. Being somebody who was exposed to sexuality at a very young age, I realized what the fuck I was doing after that point.
Technically what the old man did was illegal but there was no trauma being imparted to these girls at this point in their lives, that's already been done and long before this old guy came along.
Eli Robinson
So I'm guessing your sphincter muscle hangs down 8 inches and Flaps in the wind when you walk?
Juan King
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Isaiah Sanchez
Nope, it wasn't that kind, I wasn't raped, but put it this way, how I was introduced to sexuality would have constituted corruption of a minor charges for sure.
It's fucked up my sense of sexuality, but in the end I've also looked back on the world differently now, there are some kinds who are truly innocent and should never be touched, and well, there are kids like me who were precocious, and I just can't claim the same kind of injury that you could clearly identify in those who shouldn't have been touched at all.
I'm not justifying anything, but I am saying it didn't "hurt" me even close to the way some moralizing normalfag would claim, if anything it just pitches your perception of sexuality in a very difficult way.
Matthew Brooks
c o r r e c t i o n :
Because he mentioned putting his penis and possibly his tongue into them, it's self-evident that he's one of those weirdos who's unable to make a true emotional connection with a female, and is offended by the idea of a man performing oral sex on a woman, which justifies his latent homosexuality….
I'm confident that if this story was about homosexual activity, he would voice no complaints
Justin Jackson
THE CORRECT ANSWER WAS :
Stop feeling sorry for yourself, and zip it…
In real life, I have known people who were repeatedly raped while they were children, girls who were actually pimped out by their fathers, men who were repeatedly molested when they were little boys, people who were burned with cigarettes and savagely beaten, humans who had to endure unimaginable physical emotional and sexual abuse throughout their childhood….
AND THEY DIDN'T SPEND THEIR LIVES WHINING AND CRYING ABOUT IT….
Welcome to planet Earth. Nobody had a perfect childhood and there are hundreds of millions of people who had it much much much worse than you…
The reason I have so much admiration for the people I just mentioned is because in my real life, I was inspired by the fact that they did not allow their childhood to define their adulthood…
Instead of letting it destroy them, instead of making excuses and blaming all of their shortcomings on their childhood, instead of continuing to play the role of a victim for the rest of their lives, they used it as a motivation to become STRONGER….
You should try it one of these days
Nolan Green
I don't feel sorry for myself, I have no idea where you even got that from. I was using my own experiences to criticize the logic expressed by another.
Because your reading comprehension isn't that good, if you weren't looking to feel high and mighty about something, you'd realize I was saying what I experienced really "wasn't that bad", and that things just aren't as cut and dried as the person I was responding to makes it out to be.
You had such a hardon to talk shit that you didn't even read what I was saying thoroughly enough to understand what I was saying and why.
Kevin Robinson
AGAIN: stop yer bitchin
Joseph Foster
There's no bitching to be had, you're now doubling down because you don't want to admit that you're wrong.
How does somebody manage to make it as far as you have in life and be that stupid? I'm curious.
Easton Gutierrez
tl;dr
Joshua Kelly
Congratulations, you're full blown retarded.
Julian Bennett
737802
You are such a person, coming and going.
Ryan Perry
They're so excited to be self righteous that they make a complete faggot-ass of themselves, top lol.
Andrew Price
It's a shame they didn't just kill you, now we have to suffer through your paragraphs of victimhood.
I wasn't, it was the opposite you silly shit, I was saying I wasn't much of a victim at all, but that there are certain types of people who could be much more harmed.
Not all people are the same, that was my point, not all "abuse" is the same. It's more complicated, and in the end I just didn't really see it as so much of a problem for me. That was my point.
The biggest difficulty and it is more a difficulty than anything is that it shifts your perspective on things in difficult and unconventional ways.
It's like he's not even sliding the thread when the thread happens to be about Johnny's favorite topic. :^)
Grayson Miller
Bruce Rind thought otherwise, and proved it to the best of his ability. For that, he got his work federally censured.
Eli Powell
*grins*
Grayson Edwards
Not the one who peter-gazed his daddy and is now dazed and confused as a whiny adult, nor the fellow-boomer phonefag shitposter they call Johnny; just an old man who came in from shoveling what seemed like a mile of snow-covered driveway and sidewalk for someone's pleasure, then I enter this thread and see this shit ! I can't even drink to this! Eeyore, however, is 'always' willing to drink to the suffering of 'others'..
I'm not saying it can be generalized to that study of over 4,000 victims into adulthood, because the circumstances can be much more specific then a case study of thousands of relevant parties, all I'm saying is that you're wrong.
Thomas Morales
Not even a nibble on that there b8! How times have changed!
No, definitely not that at all, I'm just saying that when kids get sexualized it can be really complicated. That's all, citing my own personal experiences.
Luis Campbell
COMPLICATED : ive never been attracted to or interested in anything that wasn't complicated.
Nolan Scott
Ive never seen you whine……..
so why would i suddenly think that you would?
Samuel Rodriguez
True, simplicity is boring.
Isaiah Ortiz
so… What you're saying is that you 'gotta be cool
relax…..
get hip, and get on your tracks
take a back seat (ah hum), hitch-hike (ah hum) take a long ride on your motorbike
You're ready (ready Freddie) Crazy little thing called love ?
Jeremiah Phillips
I think I might be able to work up a whine. I could maybe whine about how no adults cared enough to sexualize me as a child! Would that help?
Evan Sanchez
Ahhhh… So you're saying there's no time for us
There's no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams Yet slips away from us? Who wants to live forever? Who wants to live forever? There's no chance for us It's all decided for us This world has only one Sweet moment set aside for us Who wants to live forever? Who wants to live forever? Who? Who dares to love forever Oh, when love must die? But touch my tears with your lips Touch my world with your fingertips And we can have forever And we can love forever Forever is our today Who wants to live forever? Who wants to live forever? Forever is our today Who waits forever anyway?…… right?
Carson Hall
of course i can
I'm a fucking KIKEROACH
Ayden Scott
so, basically you're saying Mmm num ba de Dum
bum ba be Doo buh dum ba beh beh Pressure pushing down on me Pressing down on you, no man ask for Under pressure that burns a building down Splits a family in two Puts people on streets Um ba ba be Um ba ba be De day da Ee day da, that's okay It's the terror of knowing what the world is about Watching some good friends screaming "Let me out!" Pray tomorrow gets me higher Pressure on people, people on streets Day day de mm hm Da da da ba ba Okay Chipping around, kick my brains around the floor These are the days it never rains but it pours Ee do ba be Ee da ba ba ba Um bo bo Be lap People on streets Ee da de da de People on streets Ee da de da de da de da ?……
Wyatt Martin
I lost my virginity while I was a runaway from home. I was 13 and was telling everyone I met I was 19. I met a woman named noel, she was 41. Later that night I lost my virginity to her on the steps of an amtrak station at 3am. The whole day she followed me around while I stole booze, we hung out and drank all day.
I WAS RAPED Just kidding, im not a faggot. I wanted that skinny bitch pussy bad.
i'm in facebook communities where girls as young as 12 are selling themselves online for attention or money. it's fun to them and this is what our society is now and what it teaches.
when we have people like belle delphine making 100k a month for looking like a loli we can't blame these girls for seeing a gap in the market to make money off loser men.
i'm 10000% sure that these girls initiated contact because i am in groups with similar ones and we target old men for blackmail/selling nudes to
Nicholas Reyes
So… Kinda like Oh, let's go Steve walks warily down the street With the brim pulled way down low Ain't no sound but the sound of his feet, Machine guns ready to go Are you ready, hey, are you ready for this? Are you hanging on the edge of your seat? Out of the doorway the bullets rip To the sound of the beat Another one bites the dust Another one bites the dust And another one gone, and another one gone Another one bites the dust Hey, I'm gonna get you, too Another one bites the dust How do you think I'm going to get along Without you when you're gone? You took me for everything that I had And kicked me out on my own Are you happy, are you satisfied? How long can you stand the heat? Out of the doorway the bullets rip To the sound of the beat Another one bites the dust ?………
Easton Allen
Really? I'm thinking about joining Facebook now
Levi Adams
I'm thinking of pimping my daughters out on there myself! About time they start bringin' in some dough! 💰
Its like a motherfucker who loses a leg or a seriously ugly person. They end up with unique skills due to alone time. As long as they dont just waste time on anime and depression
So….. She keeps her Moet et Chandon In her pretty cabinet "Let them eat cake", she says Just like Marie Antoinette A built-in remedy For Kruschev and Kennedy At anytime an invitation You can't decline Caviar and cigarettes Well versed in etiquette Extraordinarily nice She's a Killer Queen Gunpowder, gelatin Dynamite with a laser beam Guaranteed to blow your mind Anytime Recommended at the price Insatiable an appetite Wanna try? To avoid complications She never kept the same address In conversation She spoke just like a baroness Met a man from China Went down to Geisha Minah Then again incidentally If you're that way inclined Perfume came naturally from Paris (naturally) For cars she couldn't care less Fastidious and precise She's a Killer Queen
Alexander Roberts
Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more (What you say?) Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more Woah woman, oh woman, don't treat me so mean You're the meanest old woman that I've ever seen I guess if you said so I'd have to pack my things and go (that's right) Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more (What you say?) Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more Now baby, listen baby, don't ya treat me this way 'Cause I'll be back on my feet some day Don't care if you do 'cause it's understood You ain't got no money you just ain't no good Well, I guess if you say so I'd have to pack my things and go (that's right) Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more (Hell no) (What you say?) Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more (yeah, that's what I say) Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more (Yeah) (Come on, hit it) Don't you come back Oh yeah (That's right) Don't you come back Oh, don't you come back Oh, don't you come back Oh, don't you come back Don't you come back, don't you come back, don't you come back Oh, woman oh woman, don't you treat me so mean Well, convenience store woman, I've had this scene I guess if you said so We'd have to pack your things and go (Oh) Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more (no no no no, no no) Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more (I don't wanna see you 'round here) Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more (Listen to me baby, no no no no) Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more (hit it) (Don't you come back no more) Don't you come back no more (No you ain't gonna see me 'round here) Don't you come back no more (oh, don't come crying to me) Don't you come back no more (Well, I'll pack my things and go) Don't you come back no more (Don't you come back)
Juan Nelson
[Intro] You don't like how i'm livin well Fuck you Yeah, I'm the only Pimpin Mutha Fucka And Bitch Ill show you how to play boy You don't like how i'm living well fuck you Let em know
[Chorus] You dont like how im livin well Fuck you I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm Petey Wheatstraw I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm Petey Wheatstraw I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm Petey Wheatstraw I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation You don't like how i'm livin well Fuck you
[Verse 1] Pimp of the Nation Steadily Caking Coast to Coast Ass and Tiddays be shakin Pimp more by 7 in the Morning tricks Bonin How many of them owning Bright like white to dark as night More Chicks More Chicks they workin all night They wile out and fight under city lights No sleep till they get petey money right
[Chorus] You dont like how im livin well Fuck you I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm Petey Wheatstraw I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm Petey Wheatstraw I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm Petey Wheatstraw I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation You don't like how i'm livin well Fuck you
[Verse 2] Keepin it pimpin rack afta rack Stackin stack afta stack Got Chicks in my trap So fly in my suit R. I. P. to Troop When you see me say Hey! Boss pimp is the Truth Petey Wheatstraw Devils Son-in-Law Pimp of the Nation who you facin you never saw Been Pimpin since Pimpin been pimpin What! You got somethin to say bout my pimpin
[Chorus] You dont like how im livin well Fuck you I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm Petey Wheatstraw I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm Petey Wheatstraw I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm Petey Wheatstraw I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation I'm the Pimp of the Nation You don't like how i'm livin well Fuck you
[Verse 3] Breakdown a Dime till she all mine Got her walkin the track carrying a sign Pussy for sale damn petey you hell That's what they say but she making it sale They wanna lock me up but i don't give a fuck Cops want a cut i told them eat some nuts One robbed my bitch so i fucked him up When hoes stay down the pimp stay up
[Chorus] You dont like how im livin well Fuck you
Jackson Hernandez
I can't believe it took me this long to click on OP's picture, then realize who OP is! No wonder JN did not chastise OP appropriately for OP's use of the word in the very title of OP's titillatingly teenybopperish thread.. Maybe if I click my ruby slippers together one more time I can find my way home..
Adam Butler
...
Dylan Parker
worth it
Lucas Jenkins
Based judge. Justice served for one time at least.
OK. Gonna have to know how you do close-up gifs of gifs now..
Jack Reed
Cary on my waward son For ther'll be peace when you are don Lay your wery head to rest Do't you cry no mor
Oce I rose aboe the nose and cofusion Jut to get a glipse beyod the illsion I was soring ever hiher, but I flew to hih Thogh my eyes cold see I still was a blid man Thoug my mind culd think I still was a mad man I her the voces when I'm dremin', I can har them say
Cary on my wayard son For thre'll be peace wen you are don Lay your wery head to rest Don't you cry no mor
