Why the popes had a problem with free market capitalism

so capitalism never existed?

communist tier argument mate what we have now is pretty much capitalism just not your utopian version of it

It's not "utopia". The world had capitalism in every real and practical sense of the word, without creditors and Jews screwing it up. It wasn't a fantasy world. It actually existed. It'd be different if we were talking about World Peace, but this is nothing.

Hell, even after the Reformation, things didn't take the full bad turn right away. England still produced Shakespeare in the 1500s.. who loved his Geneva bible.. but also wrote the famous Merchant of Venice/Shylock story. His old world/Catholic sentiments still hadn't left him. But the seeds were planted already.

If not capitalism and if not socialism then what?

As I just said, capitalism in every situation is the default and it is only with state oppressors that you cease being "capitalist"

begome distributionist :DDDDDDDDDD

why is it different from socialism tho?

I'm not conflating you with alex jones, I'm saying that your line of reasoning makes unhelpful broad strokes based on a series of minority opinions to make this convenient narrative, like alex jones does

Look at the USA before the '90s if you want to see capitalism.

better, watch this on Hong Kong

OK.. That's fair. I'm not connecting the dots and it does come off like some Grand Conspiracy.

But the fact of the matter is that Calvin gave usury an imprimatur of sorts, and his followers rolled with it. And the only people in Europe at that time with widespread and lifelong experience in lending were Jews (because no one else wanted that job. It was considered sinful and lacking respectability). This eventually gave them a way in the upper echelons of society..and from there, they garnered influence.