By their fruits you shall know them.
Can someone explain the Moscow-Constantinople schism?
If Orthos were spergs, they'd be much more verbose.. and scholastic.
Wait.. that's like Calvinists and Thomists, isn't it? ;)
Honestly though petty fights over jurisdictional issues are a lot better than what is going in Catholicism right now where the church is being ripped apart by heresy and heretical ecclesiarchs trying to change doctrine. I give it about 10 more years before some bishop somewhere ordains a female priest or officiates a homo "wedding" and gets tacit approval for his actions from the Pope.
I hope you guys get over your eastern papist crush and get back with the Seat of St. Peter.
There are no papists in the East. Didn't you get the memo?
Just from the 17th century when they seize it uncanonically, as they tried to do with the church of Georgia at some point and got BTFO again (like in Ukraine). Moscow never cared about the canons and never really understand them unfortunately. For example the role of the EC, they believe that because now they have more money and political power they have become de facto the Ecumenical Patriarchate, which is not how things work. One of the reasons for that is that when we had the Ecumenical Councils they weren't even Christianized by Constantinople yet. Anyway their actions these days show that they still have some road to go theologically. I hope they stop screeching soon before they go full heresy.
That isn't the only reason. It's because Constantinople and Greece got conquered and occupied by Muslims for hundreds of years, and the burden fell on Russia. And to this day, Constantinople is frankly, a sick joke.
but there are tzaros
And Russia was the atheist capital of the world few decades ago. Without being concuered by a foreign force, they choose that path themselves. Their patriarchate was literally created by Stalin and their patriarch was literally a KGB agent, speaking of jokes. On the other hand the Ecumenical Patriarchate never betrayed the church and a dozen of former EPs have martyred for the faith. I guess that's the reason why Bartholomew is the EP and not some literal who ex KGB agent (thank God).
The Soviets are gone. Did you miss that memo too? :P
Turkey won't even allow building new churches, and at best renovates a couple.. if they feel like giving permission. Even that famous case of the Protestant preacher who got arrested recently (and freed) somehow has more courage than the Christians in Turkey. They literally can't or won't do anything. They're just kept on life support. What kind of center of faith is that? It's absurd.
Meanwhile, Erdogan has built a whopping 9000 mosques in the last 10 years.
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