The issue of foreign Christianity

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I'm going to write a book on this some day, I swear it on my grave, and i'm going to call it "Silver Versus Gold". Mark my words and save this post, worry not

That doesn't work that well in this day and age. Christianity has ceded all ground to science when it comes to metaphysical truth, and with hundreds of different sects with different views, christianity 'appears' to be one of many religions… so why pick the one that comes from jews?

really makes you think

I think medieval man understood the Bible to be about him, and he didn't regard the Jews as anything more than the Spawn of Satan. And it's a correct view too, because the New Covenant superseded the Old.
So whenever you read Jew in the OT, think about us, the Aryan Christians. And whenever you read Jew in the NT, think about Jews, the children of Satan, for that is what they have become by murdering the Son of God. One day when the Jew is no more, this will be understood naturally.

The line of thinking "muh ethnic religion" is very much the attitude of chosenites which kind of makes me suspect the source of "pagan subversion"
I will say this:
Most neo pagans do not believe in Gods. They are mostly atheists or nihilists larping as a reactionary stance. Their ancestors roll in their graves because they basically spit on their graves and call them Christcucks.
What came first was hatred towards Christianity that is supported by weak arguments against it. If they wanted, they could justify their positions pretty well in realms of Christianity.
Their problem is they do not seek Truth, they seek to justify their views - some of them traditional, some of them liberal. That is the issue. Since they lack faith in absolute truth they were easy to subvert.

I adress this issue by pointing out the great lineage of my ancestors who did great while being "christcucks"

I find it especially amusing when the pagan larpers dismiss Christianity as middle eastern but then proudly talk about European identity - when Europa was a middle eastern (phoenician) immigrant.

Nah, the thing is, the concept of the West is pretty much synonimous with Christendom and the Roman Empire.

That's why pre-islamic Egypt seems familiar to us, or why everyone and their mother was larping as some trojan exile, until Anatolia got islamized, and afterwards, no one wanted to have anything to do with that place.

I think that they're not bright people. Their basis for Christianity lies with out of context quotes from Mark/Matthew displayed in leftist infographics used to defend illegal immigration. Rather than read the Bible for themselves and use it to defend their faith (ie. Tower of Babel, Obeying the Law of the land-Romans 13), they abandon it with the hope of not being gaslight.

The OT was very critical of Jews, but it was for them abandoning the faith and his doctrine as opposed to them being Jewish.

The issue with making faith hinge on politics is that it'll shatter entirely when people switch their positions. I think it happened with pagan LARPers here.

This is a joke right? They don’t actually care about it being foreign. I’ve seen them admit white Israelism is true on Zig Forums after being presented with undeniable evidence and they still say they won’t convert to Christianity because Christianity seems “stupid” to them. But we all know the real reason. They’re degenerates who don’t want to be held to Christianity’s moral standard.

It's like flypaper for those who can't differentiate from the material and the spiritual.

It triggers me when pagans say such things. They are truly blind and we need to pray for them. Christianity is the truth, and the truth is not bound by borders or the land that a person comes from. God blessed Europe for her faith, but now that Pagans and secularists have taken over, I expect a curse from God to come upon these nations as opposed to the blessings they had received in the past centuries.

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Religion deals with the supernatural and is therefore foreign to the entire planet.
Just my 2 cents.

The thing is, since most of them are atheists (or at least the pol tier ones. I've met self-proclaimed pagans that aren't pagans for the hate of Christianity or muh blood but for the actual beliefs not necessarily in gods but in the practices of the occult and spirits in nature), they have a twisted meaning to what religion is which is bound to ethnicity and culture and not actual beliefs, and I don't have a big knowledge (yet) about history or philosophy but I am sure actual pagans back then would have killed them on spot for denying the gods, or at least outcast them; wasn't Socrates trialed for atheist and his teachings?
This passage from Matthew 8 where Jesus heals the centurion's servant it's pretty clear in his message that all the people from all the nations are welcomed in Heaven, and not all the children of Israel will be there.
10 When Jesus heard it, He marveled, and said to those who followed, “Assuredly, I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel! 11 And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” 13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go your way; and as you have believed, so let it be done for you.” And his servant was healed that same hour.

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Argumentation from doctrine is likely your best bet then. Most pagans are opposed to adultery and race mixing, right? Most of their gods are adulterers and race mixers though. Zeus had a bunch of bastard children and pretty much all of the gods in the Greek pantheon cheated on their spouses. Thor from the Norse pantheon and Bres from the Irish pantheon were both half-breeds.
In essence, just point out how the old gods were themselves not traditionalists and wouldn't fit the concept of morality that's been in use for the last 2000 years or so.

I know but like I said they don't believe in any of that, they just like them because they are white.
They don't like Christianity and Jesus because of the location it originated and the first followers.

Here's a good verse that predicts the paganism meme resurfacing.

1 Timothy 4:1-2 KJV

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Then there's no hope for them. Don't throw your pearls before swine.

The existence of an objective truth necessitates a heirarchy of the understanding of truth, which necessitates that the highest understanding will be singular. This singularity so happens to come from the Levant, but is universally applicable because it is the Truth. Insisting that all or so many tribes can achieve equivalent or comparable understandings of Truth is the exact relativist signature of the spirit of this age- the neopagans are atheists meme. Because to the atheist relativist, Truth has never been a real priority. Some neopagans embrace this degradation when pressed, though, you can only turn the ones looking to honestly understand a transcendent reality with this argument. Neopagans are desperate to remain ignorant that they are a symptom of the modern world, not its solution.

Most christians are martyred for their faith (this is a fact)
Most neopagans dont even confess their "faith" in public

Yeah, as others have said already, you need to subtly shame them for basing their beliefs on something so sillly and stupid, and not the logical thing which is whether something is true or not. If they're sincere then they'll have to concede their position is proposterous and will be open to discussion/debate on the truth claims of Christianity and any other worldview or system etc and the consistency of evidence, internal logic and arguments that underpin them. Will need to remember though that it's only your job to provide them the opportunity to hear, while it is God who decides if they'll actually listen and take it on board.

And I say subtly shame them because if you're gentle and thought provoking in your approach where you plant the right seeds in the argument (in this case about the importance of resting decisions based on whether something is true or not) to ensure the penny drops in their head, and they feel that drop, they will be more inclined to be open to hearing what you've got to say, as opposed to if you go in as a rabid insulting schreeching autist.

If they're insincere and cannot be convinced of the futility or stupidity of believing something independent of whether it is true or not, and concede that they simply don't care, then leave it as they're clearly not genuinely looking to engage meaningfully in any dialogue with such an absurd position and it means you should move on.

I usually just ask where the cutoff line is. How far back does one need to go in order to establish lineage or history? If a religion has been in an area for, let's say, 1700 years, isn't that long enough for it to be considered "native"? I use it in context with my own family. We are proven to have been in the United States since 1623. So, should I consider myself Scottish or American? If 400 years is long enough to be "American", why isn't 1700 years long enough to consider Christianity "European"?

But then they say that paganism is older than Christianity, therefore it's more European and more "right"

Yeah, and to that I usually say, "Shitting in a hole in the ground is older than toilets with plumbing. Which would you rather do?"

Why would you even consider egaging with them on this level?

*engaging

But your so-called "Aryan Christians" are the ancestors of the NT Jews.

Get out.

Europe is not culturally pagan though. They're attempting to connect to a culture that in many parts of Europe has been dead for 1000 years. If Paganism is so "natural" to Europe then ask them why it's still practically completely dead outside of a few internet LARPers and tumblr wiccans. They have nothing in common with the old pagans of their land. Ask them how they'd actually establish a post-Christian pagan culture and what you'll probably get in response in mostly an atheist culture where someone occasionally visits a shrine or says "By Odin" instead of "Oh my God"

It just happens

That reminds me of the thread in pic related from /monarchy/. He was talking about divine from the gods, even though no one really believes in the gods.
A true larper.

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I was in their camp once. It's a special kind of blindness, wasn't pleasant. Don't want to go back.

Anyways, pray for them. That's the best option immediately available, after that… I don't know user. It's a matter of being blind to the actual themes present in Scripture. Yes - the OT is about Jews on the surface, but the deeper you gaze, the more you realize it's just a foreshadowing of NT events and what will befall those who depart from the way, and of course prophecies that Christ fulfilled.

The underlying issue here is that they are blind to the undertones, and the significance of them.

Throw in the whole "love thy neighbor as thyself" element and it's just uh, yeah, entirely baffling to them. They're blind to the underlying currents of existence, and they're so materialistic they're blind to the importance of love. What's ironic is the same people claim to be against materialism, yet they desire material things such as land and "their people" (who magically think the same as they do, and are 100% Aryan phenotype).

They're a special case. If they're willing to listen and seriously willing to convert, then tell them the good news that Christ has conquered death. But whatever the case, do pray for them. Pray for them.

Socrates was charged with impiety and corruption of youth, the impiety because he claimed o have a personal guiding spirit, or daemon, a reason to beware of Socrates.