Leaving Politics Behind In 2018

Who else here is turning over a new leaf in 2019 and leaving politics behind?
I got swept up into politics during 2013 because of Zig Forums and by 2016 I was fully on board for rooting in the election.
Ever since then I've noticed changes in myself which I find unpleasant and I want to leave them behind.
I've always had an acute awareness of avoiding politics because I wanted to put Jesus Christ first and not men.

And for a while there I lost sight of one of our principle values - "You cannot serve two masters, for you love one and despise the other."
Satan had the ability to hand over all the kingdoms of the world to Jesus Christ because it's satan who lays hand upon the key to this worldly domain.
I have no want to fix the world any longer with my own will - I just want to be a good citizen sheep and keep my head down and let justice be served to the wicked and tyrannical systems via our God.

There are many things which are out of my control and to try to control those things would be futile.
Over the past two years - I tried desperately attempting to alter the course of our future by writing books which were political in nature. This was all an attempt to reignite the fire of Christianity in the hearts of Americans and to bring about a reformation to our current economic situation in America be refining it with Christian ethics.
I also had prayed to see changes in the tyranny laced underpinnings of our modern federal systems.

I fear my attempts have been in vain.
I come from a long line of American patriots and felt it my solemn duty to uphold the Christian values my forefathers clung to - I am still very much at a heart a grandson of liberty - however I can no longer feel any lowly form of pride upon gazing at the American flag - a nation which prospers off of sin and promotes degeneracy.
I have raised my white flag in the realm of satan and now rest in the hands of our Righteous Creator.

Please pray for me and post scriptures to help heal my broken soul.
I'm trying my best to become peaceful and to leave my anger behind me.
I must now guide my soul, mind and body back towards being a keeper of peace in Jesus Christ instead of a rebellious rable-rouser - however noble my cause.

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I also abandoned politics, but not for the same reason.
I still believe that political solutions could be worked out, I still believe that liberalism is literal demonic idolatry and that only through radical, militant traditionalism could we take back our future and our destiny, but I also came to realize that this is not yet our time.
Imagine your cause like a tree. No tree survives without deep roots. We have to tend to the roots and grow our tree to be strong while we watch the tree of liberalism rot from the inside.

I will still follow politics, I will still vote as hard right as I possibly can, I will still point out the treachery of the jews, but I moved on to better things now. Starting a family, growing the tree, one root, one leaf at a time if need be.

God shall triumph in the end, by simply being good, and all the evils of this world receive their punishment in themselves for all their sinful acts corrupt who they are.
Sin is the cause and the punishment of itself.

Just take care not to allow sin to turn you into a sinner as well.

I'm discerning a monastic vocation and preparing myself to start making extended retreats in order to discern further. I essentially see history as a linear decline culminating in the apocalypse at this point. I don't think that everyone should give up fighting and trying to make a difference in this world, but I don't have the strength for it, and it only brings me immense despair. Knowing that all of the governments of the world are essentially satanic, working toward satanic ends, this diabolical globalist stranglehold on the world, the activity of the Jews and their financial schemes of control, the degeneracy that they push on all of us through popular media, the corruption in the Church and the pedophilia amongst government and Church elites, it's all too much for me to bear, and I fear that if I continue focusing on it I could lose my own salvation by succumbing to bitter hatred. I cannot stand the idiocy and hypocrisy of the people, and even though I know they're being programmed and aren't totally culpable it causes me to tend toward misanthropy. I cannot live in the world. God bless those who can. My life needs to be about one thing and one thing only, communion with God. His perfect justice will reign in the end. I just hope and pray that God leads me to where I need to be.

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With all due respect, I read your post, and something in my gut and/or in the back of my mind wonders: are you running towards God…or are you running away from the troubles of the world (and by extension, possibly your unique cross to bear)?

Keep in mind, if you are looking to monasticism as just an escape from the world, you're going to be in for a rude awakening, as you will have done nothing more than shift your participation in the war against the "powers and principalities and the dark forces of this world", from the grunt/private ranks, to the special forces arena, metaphorically. The monks and nuns get attacked and tempted by the demons the hardest of all.

To add and elaborate further: perhaps struggling against and overcoming your despondency and misanthropy is precisely the cross that Christ wishes you to bear in the first place. Once again: Monks and Nuns do not become Monks and Nuns because they hate people and the world, but because they love Christ.

I don't see it as an either/or. It strikes me as a false binary.

There's a difference between "I reject the world because I love Christ so much" vs. "I reject the world, because it's so terrible that I can't handle it and want to escape from it." If you can't handle the world, then the responsibilities that you are called to and the demons that tempt you, in monastic life, are going to eat you alive: Vid strongly related.

I certainly thank Zig Forums for leading me inadvertently to Christ, but after a few years you eventually come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter at all.
As much as I'd love for a monarcho-fascist revolution wherein the satanist paedophiles who run my country are overthrown and we can stop the talmundists from genociding europeans and turning everyone into trannies, its simply not going to happen; the youth is too degenerated and sick, everyone is hooked on something, the law reaches further into our rights everyday, the family unit is in shambles, babies murdered continually and those who aren't are being brainwashed into becoming abominations and if you try to stop it the government will literally take your own children away from you.
Its winnie the poohed, all of it.
So we should just focus on Christ and let the world kill itself, God said he will judge the world and we don't have to, so lets let him.

I understand your concern. I guess the focus of my post was in the context of the OP's question about politics. My deepest desire is for my life to be about sanctification and communion with Christ in a total way, but that impulse is connected to my dissatisfaction with living in the world. I guess the two things inform each other, if that makes sense. These are things that have been on my mind and that I've been attempting to parse through for years. I believe that my desire for a life totally devoted to Christ is related in many ways to how hollow pursuing a career and leading a secular life has left me feeling. It isn't an either/or situation for me. I've seen that cartoon by the way, those Russian Orthodox cartoons are really awesome. Also, I'm not totally sure if I want a purely contemplative life. I'm open to the idea of serving an active ministerial role, which is why I've been in contact with the Franciscans and doing some discernment with a Third Order group to learn more about their form of spiritually.


I know that feel bro. It really feels like we're in the eleventh hour. Let's make sure we're prepared for the things to come.

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This.

OP, there is some great scripture about this that I heard online and at church. I can't remember the exact verses or phrases. The jist of it is that God will protect us, he knows us by name and cares so much for us Christians and his people Israel that he pays ransom after ransom, even his only son for us. He knows our needs and our tribulation, and will not forsake us even if it appears he does. Therefore fear not, for to fear would be to not trust God. Even if he allows your enemies on Earth to triumph over you, know that you are precious to him and he has great things in store for you. Those who are unjust let them be unjust still, those who are righteous let then be righteous still, and those who are filthy let them be filthy still. You don't need to save everyone, or even anyone but yourself. Kyrie Eleison, because the Devil is just getting started.

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Probably;
7 “But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord,
whose confidence is in him.
8 They will be like a tree planted by the water
that sends out its roots by the stream.
It does not fear when heat comes;
its leaves are always green.
It has no worries in a year of drought
and never fails to bear fruit.”
and
25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Fair enough. I was initially concerned because in this post I got an impression of "The world is bad and makes me sad, and I don't like people, so I'm going to become a monk." Now reading this you sound a lot more level-headed and like you have the right intentions.

God Bless you on your ways and on your ultimate decision. May it be to God's will.

This discussion hit me, but not in a bad way. I certainly want to live more minimalistically, that is spend less time with unnecessary material things. While I had not been looking at actual monkhood (because right now I'm trying to find the right denomination) I had been looking at possibilities for not-total seclusion, but living off the grid, possibly nomadically. Partially because I really don't like how I accumulate material junk but also being an awkward autistic person I don't socialize well and get angry a lot. I'm going to have to think about what kind of lifestyle I'm meant to live.

Although I've never left politics behind I have a similar story. I was totally on board for the 2016 election as well and afterwards I just felt a hole in my heart that something was missing I started trying to get back in touch with my faith which incidentally led me to begome cadolic. Two years later and I just got confirmed last Sunday. Now I just try and advocate for a return of Christian morality into society because I think changing society is the best way to change the politics.

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I got swept up in late 2015 through 2018. I need to depoliticize my mind and focus on doing what is right. I don't care about grand political and economic theories anymore. Everyone has their hot take from the comfort of their armchair or ivory tower and it can be quite lucrative and psychologically gratifying to have a supposed answer and solution. The fact that politics involves man means that it is foolish to make it the pillar of your life, whether or not your views are espoused by a particular candidate or party, because it will always be corrupted and compromised one way or another. Aside from all of this. What have I actually done politically? Do I ever expect to become politically involved? What influence would I even have? Do I even know anything at all? I think it has been enlightening somewhat and my interest in history, politics, economics and philosophy filled some hole that in the end brought me to Christianity, but it's time to prioritize it less. I'll keep tabs here and there, so as to be aware of existential threats and plan accordingly, but I don't give a winnie the pooh. Just be moral and not a humorless cunt. What has really changed in the last few years? Not much. We live in an era where people speak more than they do. Words are no longer backed by action and what people say is often incoherent or pure theory with no justification. Amen.

I don't think I'll ever leave politics behind. I believe too strongly that society should be modeled after church doctrine. Perhaps I suffer from militarization or radicalism but I legitimately wouldn't care if (hypothetically, of course it won't happen in my lifetime) it was made illegal to speak ill of Christ or any of the Saints. I don't believe in freedom of religion anymore, and I have lost all faith in democracy and am now a monarchist. I almost wish I was born in the dark ages.

Holy molly, that image….

Already ten years ahead of ya, bruh

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I remember the old days when ppl saw being a monastic a step above being an average Christian, not a retreat from reality but a facing reality in a deeper way

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What do you mean?
Wouldn't monastic life be easier without temptation?
Or does the pure environment cause you to become hyper aware of your own mind being geared toward sin?

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Not a monastic here, but privately ascetic, in a sense. But I wouldn't call proper monastics easy for one reason alone: It's humbling and highly regimented. You're either taking orders from the head monk or from Time itself. As for temptations: Those are always there. Simply being in the presence of them all of the time doesn't change the reality that they are tempting. At least in my case that is so. I could easily join the world and be around women (as I've fallen to in the past.. but never carried out). Maybe in a monestary, there's a little extra bit of protection.. but those monks could leave and go wild. Some have in the medieval era at least. Plenty of womanizers among them…. strange I know.

Nah

I follow you my brother. I think the same as you and been working out exactly as you posted.

I'll pray for you.

Just make your politics more Christ-centered instead of whatever partisan/economic/ideological angle you were approaching it from.

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You're serving the enemy by not fighting.You're giving up.
Enjoy being murdered by your Jew masters.

"So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth."

Jesus was pretty much a lefty socialist preaching about sharing the wealth and for love and tolerance of the other. It's weird how Christianity is so often thought of as the religion of conservatives when Jesus would be so diametrically opposed to most of the right's principles and leaders.

What a load of shit.

Leftists don't claim Kingship over the entire universe. I don't know how people miss this huge elephant in the room when they push this retarded theory. The only leftists are the John Domnic Crossan-tier drivel that you're reading.

Or you know, maybe Christianity is the REAL third position?
You see nazis and commies were not entirely wrong about everything. Commies had a system that lacked love and humanity, why nazis had a system which lacked forgiveness.

But both of those were revolutionary groups, and like all revolutionaries, they failed because they idolized something and put it before God.

Leftists don't claim Kingship over the entire universe. I don't know how people miss this huge elephant in the room when they push this retarded theory. The only leftists are the John Domnic Crossan-tier drivel that you're reading.

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Literally in the OP.
But its missing the rest:
Of course, I expected pushback on this since its so deeply ingrained in our culture to associate Christianity with conservative values. I just think it's weird.

I'll accept that.

Charity is not socialism, and not even leftist. Even Karl Marx would tell you that much. Furthermore, these things are incidental, and only matter as long as we are still in this world. Because Christ didn't come to preach charity and love, he came to preach the kingdom of heaven and lead souls to their salvation. There will be no need for charity in heaven.

Christ was conservative in that he said for whores to stop being whores, called the Talmudic rabbis the Synagogue of Satan, and called for anyone to follow Him, instead of just, like, whatever feels right to you, maaaan.

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This.
This is exactly why the left hates Jesus so much.

While I agree that liberalism is demonic, I also believe that it is what is paving the way for the antichrist system, and for a time the antichrist system will deceive many.
Getting dragged down into radical militant traditionalism is just another form of this deception.
Everything has been prophesied, it is in God's hands.

Oh I see, wise one. The true Christianity(tm) is about going along with the crowd and hiding your true beliefs, it's just a convenient accident that this way you don't have to fear the wrath of the minions of Satan.

Honestly go winnie the pooh yourself, limp wristed Christianity is cancer.

Sure. Get bogged down in pointless divide and conquer fights. You are being manipulated by the minions of Satan just as much as the libs.

There are those who obey Christ and there are those who would see Christ obey the zeitgeist. There is unity between the latter camp and Satan, there is no unity between the latter camp and the former.

I'll stay in politics just as I was, but I feel mostly alone. Zig Forums is behind me in terms of revelation to the truth, so I mostly only go there for news now. And shitposting fedoras and LARPagans. I will have children soon, so politics is ever relevant to me and their future. I will be homeschooling to protect them from this terrible world and to raise them better than I was raised.


If you're not radically fervent for the true sayings of the Bible, then you are a cuck. I don't call myself a traditionalist for the same reason Dalrock doesn't. It has lost meaning. Spare me any divide and conquer nonsense. A tree that does not bear good fruit is for the fires.

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Then you never understood Zig Forums. The entire global political scene is a staged show to hide organized crime from public scrutiny and retaliation. Zig Forums is there to see behind the curtain, not to keep participating in the charade like a blind buffoon. As for leaving politics behind…you can't, because the ones behind it are aiming to take everything you have including your life. What you should be doing is keeping a watchful eye on the moves of your enemy, while selecting the few truths from all the lies.

Stupid saying. Every tree is a part of a collective ecosystem, a home to life, a support to it's surroundings, and every unnecessary attack on nature destroys a bit of the future for all life.

We don't worship Gaia here on Zig Forums, we worship God.

100% this.
We'll leave politics behind once the world is run by Jesus Christ and the crooks have been removed.

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Then why are you disrespecting his creation with a senselessly violent and stupid saying like this?

Not worshiping (as in respecting) life means evoking death, which is a sin.

That is a saying of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself that you are insulting. Matthew 7:19.
Worshiping Gaia will land you in Hell. Repent.

Except it is not violent or destructive. He is referencing pic related. A parable Jesus taught us in the Book of Luke. You see, you are the tree. God (the vineyard owner) made you (the tree) and for all your life you bore Him no good fruit (works). Seeing this, God sent his Son Jesus (the dresser) to rekindle your heart (fertilize The Roots) with the Gospel.

If the Gospel doesn't re kindle the Love in your heart, and you produce no or bad fruit than you will surely die (ie destined to be firewood). But if you produce good fruit than surely you will live forever.

So you have to decide, are you going to be a Bible believing christian? Or art thou going to be a fig tree that bears no fruit?

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I appreciate the input. I read the bible only once many years ago and came to the conclusion that all the good intentions of morality found in the scriptures were corrupted by the commandments, which are anti-human nature. But let me answer directly to the Luke quote…appointing the lesson onto humans is all good and noble, but there is a crucial mistake in this tale. The owner of the vineyard already disrespected nature by assuming that every tree has to follow his needs and that he can destroy what he deemed unnecessary. What he ignored is the fact that nature itself balanced the ecosystem and gave every individual tree a purpose that aids it's environment. Fast forward to modern times and we have the prove that humanities industrialization of condensed nature, exploited for only one purpose (in this case vineyards), led to the destruction of the ecological balance, which is now threatening the existence of the end product.

In doing this he broke two of the (corrupted) commandments…Thou shalt not kill and Thou shalt have no other gods before me. The latter by playing god himself in directing the outcome of life and death.

Not worshiping life will end all of it. You also don't have to add a god to nature. I'm fine with having the God be the creator of nature.

I can be productive by simply chasing the truth, while respecting the believes of others. Just don't assume I would keep quiet when I spot inconsistencies.

Your god is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Your god looks suspiciously like Gaia.

I could debate with someone who is actually interested and studious, or I could debate with you.
Guess which one I'm going to do.

I told you I'm fine with accepting the one true god as the creator of nature, but that doesn't mean I blindly follow rules that are against nature, just because someone said these are gods rules.

Take the commandments out of the Bible and you have scriptures that teach you morality, that helps you directing your faith and that transforms your superstitious into natural curiosity. That is right, wholesome and the righteous path to a fulfilling life. Put the commandments back in and you find yourself enslaved in a never ending cycle of making up excuses as to why you cannot follow these laws. In all of human history and in all other religions similar laws were constantly broken, therefore they're impossible to fulfill and corrupt the believer into becoming a self-hating liar.


We are not sitting in a church, this is anonymous, I gave you my honest statements and yet I get nothing back in terms of actual critic towards what I'm saying and instead only insults towards myself (not that I care about these). Just why? Not questioning the narrative is just as bad as blindly following falsehoods. Jesus would not have acted like this.

I have put an argument in funnily enough.

That explains your confusion.
>and came to the conclusion that all the good intentions of morality found in the scriptures were corrupted by the commandments,
NlGGA, wut? Did you even read the 10 commandments? There is nothing corrupt about them.
NlGGER WUT?
I'm baffled, kerfuffled, and genuinely concerned as to how you came to this conclusion and claim to worship God.

Are you apart of that New Age movement? If you are, stop it. Get some help. Repent before it's too late. Read your Bible

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They are impossible to uphold. Each and every human being alive is breaking them again and again, while coming up with excuses as to why. One of the most profound is the excuse to just interpret them as willy-nilly as possible. There is not a single Christian alive (or ever was) that hasn't broken at least half of the commitments. And not only are they corrupting the believer into becoming a sinner, they also corrupt the scriptures of the Bible itself, because the believers are desperately searching and twisting the lessons of morality to find excuses in them, that would justify the breaking of the commandments. Please tell me at what point am I wrong?

At the point of which your deep understanding of the bible is limited to one read, made years ago?

Also inb4 everyone is eager to argue with this guy they break Matthew 7:6.
Matthew 7:6
“Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.

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fr*ckin got em

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How many times have you played god yourself by meddling in nature, by creating and destroying life, by putting laws onto others?
Idolatry; false idols…how's the celebrity worshiping going these days? Cheering on those soccer players? How about the massive churches with their obnoxiously big crosses? How many expensive editions of the Bible have you bought?
Holy shit I spilled my beer (damn, now I have to repent yet again…)
I've seen people sleeping in churches, kids playing during sermons, empty churches, only Christmas goers, the crushing realization of boredom. How many times have you yawned in church, user?
What are retirement homes? Christians are literally behind Muslims, Buddhists and jews in terms of elderly care.
You eat flesh, then animals where killed by or for you. You participate in capitalism and enjoy freedom, then know that these are payed for in blood, wars and murder. Do you fish, do you smash flies, do you take down trees? Humans are killers by nature.
Wew, we have sodomites, pedophiles and transvestites in leadership positions of churches…adultery is like small fish by now.
Again capitalism…every win you make is another man's loss. The entire concept of modern society is build on jewish usury, which you pay with your taxes and your bank account. how about using avatars in your Christian online community? Yep, all stolen assets. How many times have you stolen a view on some sexy girl passing you by? Did you ask her for permission? i don't think so.
Backstabbing is literally the daily conflict resolution, combined with all the slander behind each others backs and the things we do get something cheaper. I hope you never signal other drivers when you see a speed camera, this would make you a snitch.
Let's combine all these with what we're doing to other nations to secure our security, our selfish needs and of course our social hierarchy. if you have it good, your neighbors have to suffer because of it.

There you have…all of them are impossible to uphold in any realistic form. May they be evil or not, they are against humanities natural behavior.

Adding to this…you justifying your constant failure in upholding these nonsense laws is what enslaves you and destroys the teachings of the Bible.

Clearly the spirit that won that liberty.

Do you not understand? Your concepts are flawed to the core. You even say that "But EVERYONE as broken the commandments!" is some counterpoint to the commandments, even though bible talks about this very argument multiple times.
I'm not going to argue with this. The problem is that you're not studious and you're not smart, although maybe you believe yourself to be.

Why do you have the time to argue with me but not to read the bible?

You've made a very tempting post to reply to, and I already have a arguments for most of those that I've read, but I'm not going to. As the good Bible says, its a waste of time.

this. I was actually writing a big post with arguments but i saw your post, and i agree. It's a waste of time.

Just because some people fail and break laws/commandments doesn't mean the law doesn't work. If a few people go on a murder spree does that mean we should just give up on the law and allow murder? That's the most retarded thing I have ever heard.

It's up to us as individuals and as family units to uphold God's law in our heart. When you have (((satanic leftists))) preaching the tolerance of evil and masking it is "human nature" is how we got faggots and pedophiles whats the difference, amirite? infesting and being lauded over.

You seem to have a grudge on America and are taking it out on God. Opposing Him and His law because it doesn't conform to the lies you were taught. It's literal satanism.

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You look like the kind of guy who needs to Read C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity ASAP.

All across the globe the laws were corrupted into a safeguard to protect organized crime from persecution. No amount of incarceration has ever cut down the numbers of crimes committed. Just like the commandments, the man made laws of human society are getting broken each and every day, on global scale, and all across the spectrum of severity. Why is that? Because human laws are nothing but a lie to control the majority, which is a necessity, but was entirely corrupted and is of course flawed and rotten on it's very basics. To break any of these laws one only has to put enough pressure on the human, to make him so afraid that he will instinctively transform back to the unshakable laws of nature itself, that commands him to survive by any means necessary. Fact.

Nope. Each and every one of us breaks these laws all the time. You reading this on your smartphone or PC screen, was only made possible by ongoing slave labor, child abuse, murder, drug abuse, prostitution, poverty, rapes and so on…just to acquire the crystals necessary to produce those screens, never mind the outsourced, under payed, slave workers that are being overworked in the industrial manufacturing complexes. Now look how many commandments you broke by simple ignorant participation. But i bet you have an excuse for that too.

Wrong again. The existence of individuality requires a stable collective that establishes the freedom that is needed for individuality to strive. This very collective is under attack by people who only see us as numbers and don't recognize individuality at all. You running in circles, while failing to uphold corrupted laws, helps them take down the collective that sustains you.

Nothing but projection onto symbolism and words. Be honest, name the jews and attack the humans responsible for these crimes. For they're mere human garbage.

Haven't mentioned it at all. You just made that up, which probably falls under the "false witness against thy neighbor" line. I have no grudge against the US btw.

Only in your imagination, since I already stated that I accept God as the creator of nature.

Nobody told me lies. I only ever seek truth and point out obvious lies and inconsistencies to help others finding the truth. the only thing I want in return is for you to point out where I'm wrong, because I want nothing more than speaking the truth.

Another baseless insult. I tell you the truth, point out how you are corrupted into becoming a sinner, while you refuse to defuse any of my points, and then you call me a satanist. Not cool.


That is the corruption I was speaking of. The commandments are the foundation of the Bible, and it is mandatory to lose yourself in studying the scriptures to find excuses for why you fail to uphold the basic laws. Without the commandments the Bible would be your tool to make yourself stronger and the world a better place for everyone. All you need to strive can be found in the scriptures, but it's the toxic foundation that keeps you running headlong into a wall. Same thing with Islam, same thing with the Buddhists. All three were corrupted from the outside (by the so called jews) to enslave mankind under the written laws that only benefit the people who are not following them. This was their biggest scheme to control and overthrow the human race. A simple lie attached to the way of life. Prove me wrong, I beg you.

Have it in my backlog. I did read "An Experiment in Criticism" and "The Four Loves" tho. But you know how it is…too much knowledge and too little time to study it. Thanks for the recommendation anyway.

I figured out what this heretic is:
Antinomianism


Or maybe worse, doesn't matter. A heretic is a heretic.

(((Satanic left))) as in those who oppose God, which is what you are doing by spouting New Age blasphemy. Repent sinner.

It's getting comical with your inability to address my claims in any other way than insults. user, I followed this path for decades. I confront Muslims, Catholics, Christians, Buddhists, Mormons, jews, Scientologists, Capitalists, Fascists, Communists, Pedophiles, Neets, kids in schools, old people in retirement homes, the haves and the have-nots. I found the truth talking to all of these people, while studying books, while always listening and while never backing down on telling the truth as I see it. No matter the consequences.

I'm in no group other than humanity. I'm not against morality, not against religions, and it's impossible to be against social norms, because those norms are naturally dictated by the collective. Not even anarchists can outsmart the needs of their group.

This term is as ignorant and hostile and dumb as atheist. It defiles the natural law of yin and yang. Of the balance of opposites. These terms are branding anyone that isn't you a non-believer. This is you playing God and enforcing a social status based on the non participation of others to your believe. This is also how the Muslims were enslaved to never ending conquer and wars against anyone who isn't faithful to Allah. Guess who is benefiting from this? Yep, once again the jews have an entire race of barbarians at their fingertips. You think that's impossible? Well, just look at what the so called atheists are worshiping…hedonism, capitalism, immorality. And guess (((who))) runs, distributes and benefits from all three of those things?


As in accepting "modernization" of the words of God, like you did when you accepted the new testament and anything after the King James Bible? Did I mention that sodomites have free reign over the churches? As in child abusing sodomites. I didn't put them there, I stand against evil, and I do it with truth. You accept anything evil the church is dishing out on you, but you refuse to mentally play ball with someone who shows you understandable truths in a world full of lies. What do you have to lose in going through with my way of thinking . At worst you find out it's bullshit and call me out for it (which I so desperately want) and at best see the truth and act accordingly. I don't offer you a new religion or anything else, I only want to you to become what God intended you to be.

You have no claims. The Bible and the Word of God is the 10 commandments. Jesus clarifies and reaffirms this is the Bible. The 10 commandments is a way of life, getting rid of it because some people refuse to obey it is not grounds to get rid of it. All of His parables reflect God's commandments. All of the stories of people's iniquity and sin are what happens when you disobey the commandments.

The arrogant Pharoah elevated himself to the status of god and showed no love twords the Israelites. He literally breaks the two commandments God set forth, and is drowned after God frees His people from slavery.

Your (((satanic))) interpretations of what is "human nature" is the same evil you claim is the reason why we should get of the commandments. It is the same evil that fooled Eve in the garden. The same evil Jesus died for on the cross.

Heretic is what you are. You know the truth but you distort it and wish it to be true. Satanist is what you are because you are in open opposition to God's rule. You think you know better because you briefly skimmed it one time many years ago. You will be justly punished for your pride. Repent from your arrogance and turn twords God. When judgement day comes, you will be cast into the burning lake of fire like the barren fig tree that you are.

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We're not voting for your stooge again Ivan.

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God caught Jesus and Lucifer having gay sex together in the garden of Eden. He punished his two teen angel boys by forcing Lucifer (who was the one winnie the pooh Jesus up the ass) to live in hell for eternity, and forcing Jesus to sacrifice himself for mankind like the bitch he is for taking lucifers hot semen up his ass like a little girl. Turns out god was jealous because he wanted to be the only one winnie the pooh Jesus up the ass. 678

This coming form the guy that admits he only ever read the bible once years ago but wants to argue about it anyways.

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You can't abandon politics. Abandoning politics is why Christianity world wide is being eradicated by leftist authoritarian political parties. I'm not a strong believer at all, I don't follow the sacraments or pray or attend Mass. But I can see what is going on and I will not allow it, God help me.

Why are you here?

Abandon your folk and turn everything towards Christ.

Because I still believe in God, even if I'm a terrible Christian.

I understand the sentiment, I'm ready to surrender as well. I don't know what I'll do next year to be honest.


You will become a better Christian if you do those things after you begome ordodox. The spoiler is in jest, but seriously, go to mass.

Where I am it just seems overrun with people pretending to be good. I am by no means a good person either, but going to mass with people who I see wrong each other (and me) all the time is what made me feel strange about it. And it's probably not different elsewhere, which is why I personally do what I do. In any case, I will still defend Christianity as it is something that desperately needs to be defended these days.

>And it's probably not different elsewhere
You won't really know unless you try.
Begome, my friend.

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Posts deleted so I guess I don't have the context, but most of the Christians who have ever lived couldn't read period, nonetheless study the bible regularly. Literacy isn't necessary for a properly developed faith, though it can certainly help.

Yeah, okay chaim

Well there's a few things the matter with that, for one you're being a blackpilled cowardly faggot who's giving up despite never having tried to do something actually useful (sorry, your gay little political "treatises" don't count). If you're that passionare you might have tried actually becoming involved in local politics (although then you'd actually have to prioritize the interests of your people to be succesful, rather than the nebulous nonsense concept of "liberty" which has wreaked so much havoc in America and around the world). But if in your mind the American flag was a symbol of the American government (being composed of a mafia of international pillagers exploiting heritage America) rather than the actual American nation, it's probably good that you've given it up as a fetish object.


There's always time to come home to the Lord, his arms are open to you.

We are all terrible sinners. Some of us are so horrible we don't even know just how awful we are. Knowing even this truth can lead us into the sin of masochism or despair! This is why you should always pray for forgiveness. Even if it's just hollow words, it's practice.

So called politics, like the nations they are enacted in, are the works of men's hands and is just another form of idolatry.
“Why should I forgive you? Your children have forsaken Me and sworn by gods that are not gods. I satisfied their needs, yet they committed adultery and assembled at the houses of prostitutes. They are well-fed, lusty stallions, each neighing after his neighbor’s wife. Should I not punish them for these things?” declares the LORD. “Should I not avenge Myself on such a nation as this?"
Jeremiah 5:7-9
"Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven."
Matthew 10:32-33
"Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is for their salvation. For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge. Because they were ignorant of God’s righteousness and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. Christ is the end of the Law, to bring righteousness to everyone who believes."
Romans 10:1-4

The context is that this guy thought the seven commandments were corrupting the rest of the bible, because nobody could follow all of them and therefore would just make excuses.

I'm with ya, OP. Did that long before you started to do that back in 2017 when Zig Forums went to un-redeemable levels faggotry with their whole kek paganism and Trump worshiping. I now only focus on learning and studying the bible and christian history plus improving on my Christian spirituality.
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