That's silly, and you know it deep down

Brody Diaz
Brody Diaz

be me good
good person
"you will go to hell for choosing the wrong religion"
That's silly, and you know it deep down.

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Robert Hernandez
Robert Hernandez

I believe that about Christ.. because he said it himself. It's all or nothing at that point. I don't know anything deep down, except to trust him.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

I don't believe that about "religions" necessarily. But Jesus is not a "religion".

Connor Thomas
Connor Thomas

be you
good person
doesn't believe in Christ
goes to Limbo where it's not really suffering but it's still hell
Dumb ohohoho anime poster.

Sebastian Evans
Sebastian Evans

Be uncharitable sodomite
Be completely deaf and blind to the evils within myself and in the world
Despise God, and his creations
However, I tell myself that I'm a good person anyway
Go straight to hell after death
Woooow bugged morality system, seriously!

Nathan Gutierrez
Nathan Gutierrez

Im good person
every tiem

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Tyler Martin
Tyler Martin

I have other sheep
do not judge outside the church…for some shall be a surprise

paraphrasing, but it's in the scriptures. for those who hear the Word of Christ and reject it, it's over though.

Grayson Wright
Grayson Wright

being this absolutely terrified
Begome gadolic.

Julian Rodriguez
Julian Rodriguez

be smug anime poster
thinks can be any religion and be saved
forgets there is no salvation outside of the Church
burns in hell for it's arrogance

Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. For Jesus gave St. Peter the keys to heaven, where he can bind and loose anyone here on Earth. Repent from your arrogance and submit to Christ.

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David Hall
David Hall

abhorrent thread
anime OP
Every winnie the pooh time.

Chase Nelson
Chase Nelson

Some Christians believe that virtuous Pagans will be saved if they never heard of Christianity in life - Jesus supposedly went to Hell during the three days he was dead and rescued them.

For quite some time after Jesus rose, many Pagans existed who had never heard of Jesus. These Pagans went to the Limbo of the Patriarchs, and any hypothetical good person living in 2019 who sincerely dies without hearing about Jesus would also go to this Limbo.

But, who hasn't heard of Jesus? You of all people have none - you're on a Christian board having Jesus explained to you in your terms. We all want you to be saved. Please listen to us.

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Nathaniel Rodriguez
Nathaniel Rodriguez

That's an interesting passage. As someone who has never been to church and wasn't raised Christian can say that I haven't heard the Word of Christ? Also if there's a chance that anyone could find which passage this is from I'd appreciate it

Jaxon Baker
Jaxon Baker

Be good
Have you ever lied?
Coveted?
Stolen (even a penny)?
Dishonored your parents?

Cameron Bennett
Cameron Bennett

every religion has a moral system made to please man.
Christianity is the only religion that the world hates, the moral law is the law of nature (so no faggotry, no pre martial sex, no abortion etc)
And everyone who rejects Christ deep down he knows he is a bad person.

Christopher Anderson
Christopher Anderson

As someone who has never been to church and wasn't raised Christian can say that I haven't heard the Word of Christ?

Probably not. This sort of exclusion, as it pertains to most in the west, isn't some modernist catch-all. It's safe to assume that everyone who knows of Christ and His Church and rejects it up until the end will not be saved.

On the other hand, the Church acknowledges "invincible ignorance", which these passages seem to support.

Caleb Powell
Caleb Powell

Its from John 14 I guess.
Maybe native Americans before the Europeans got there had that excuse.
Like Pius IX said, only those who lived the natural law, so that excludes everyone who lived a life according to the world like OP, actively searched for God (unlike OP, because you always end up in Christianity no matter what, unless personal interests take you elsewhere) and be always ready to submit to God's will those might be saved by ways known to God only, they implicitly want to be baptised.
To quote St. Justin Martyr:
We have been taught that Christ is the first-begotten of God, and we have declared him to be the Logos of which all mankind partakes [John 1:9]. Those, therefore, who lived according to reason [Greek, logos} were really Christians, even though they were thought to be atheists, such as, among the Greeks, Socrates, Heraclitus, and others like them. . . . Those who lived before Christ but did not live according to reason [logos] were wicked men, and enemies of Christ, and murderers of those who did live according to reason [logos], whereas those who lived then or who live now according to reason [logos] are Christians. Such as these can be confident and unafraid (First Apology 46 [A.D. 151]).

Robert Bailey
Robert Bailey

One more thing OP.
Catholicism has the advantage of being the only religion that reason and history supports so there's no excuse for you.
Ignoring God is an insult to Him, because He certainly does not ignores you, and since looking for God means changing your life you are guilty of being an unrepentant sinner because you don't recognise the need for God because you thing you are good.

Josiah Murphy
Josiah Murphy

Catholicism has the advantage of being the only religion that reason and history supports
How so?

David Jenkins
David Jenkins

read a history book and the church fathers

there's a reason why protestants try to claim that the catholic church only came into in existence at the time of constantine - if only to rebut the overwhelming historical evidence of its existence since the time of Christ

Christopher Flores
Christopher Flores

Make an assertion
Asked for proof
"read a book"
Typical

Gabriel Morris
Gabriel Morris

OK friend, read St. Justin Martyr (50 A.D. or thereabouts), Sozomen's Ecclesiastical History, or any of the plethora of mid-5th century authors who support the idea of a single, universal (catholic, in greek) church.

newadvent.org/fathers/

Turning away from truth will not be accounted as righteousness.

Henry Smith
Henry Smith

150 A.D.

for st.justin martyr I mean :)

Bentley Evans
Bentley Evans

Catholicism has the advantage of being the only religion that reason and history supports so there's no excuse for you.
It's like the Orthodox church is the 13th floor of Christianity or something.

Julian Jackson
Julian Jackson

Woooow bugged morality system, seriously!
Lol, Bugged Atheistic moral system, Error atheist system not responding, input i'm just a good person.exe not responding. Wtf tbh :/

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Angel King
Angel King

Literally go to Wikipedia dumb tigger.

Austin Murphy
Austin Murphy

Sounds comfy

Just because I don't agree with a belief system, does that mean I "despise" God? That's absurd.

I've never to robbed anyone, nor killed anyone.

for those who hear the Word of Christ and reject it, it's over though.
Define that.

I'm not.

Isn't you the arrogant one saying only your church can save people?

But, who hasn't heard of Jesus? You of all people have none
I have one good excuse: my own intellect. I just happen to not be compatible with christian teachings, and disagree with them. Besides, I don't think there are good reasons to have faith, the facts as depicted by the bible are probably not true.

God gave me my brain, he wants me to think about this stuff and you know, be honest with myself.

Yes. Being good doesn't mean being perfect.

every religion has a moral system made to please man.
Like Christianity? Believe and you will live forever and ever in heaven, with no bad feelings whatsoever, just you, Jesus, and the kittens!

only religion that reason and history supports
That depends. You can find supposed evidences for christianity, but you can easily make rational arguments against it too. Not everyone who isn't a christian is a dishonest dumb prick.

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Noah Ramirez
Noah Ramirez

Wrong premise, you're a bad person, therefore you are going to hell unless you choose the right religion & have the right beliefs generally, because belief informs action.

Checkmate anime-poster

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Jason Hernandez
Jason Hernandez

be God
create people in Your image
they Winnie the Poo-Poo everything up, so you tell them to get bent
you still love them so you come into their world as one of them to tell them how to be reconciled to You at a great punishment to Yourself
it's literally as easy as submitting to Christ
two thousand years later, an autismo at a Mongolian cattle herding internet forum complains about how it's too hard to be reconciled with God

Blake Robinson
Blake Robinson

Posting this fake tweet is lying about the words of the Pope. You are bearing false witness against His Holiness.

Luis Harris
Luis Harris

Yes. Being good doesn't mean being perfect.
Now you're officially going to hell. You could have said literally anything else but your mouth condemns you. God only knows what happens to you if you die with that statement on your conscience.

Matthew 5:48
Be perfect therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect
By saying you won't even try, we know where you're heading, good luck
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Jackson Davis
Jackson Davis

No, I'm not, cease your autism, nobody genuinely believes Francis said that.

Caleb Reyes
Caleb Reyes

Just because I don't agree with a belief system, does that mean I "despise" God? That's absurd.
Not wanting to find out the truth, i.e. Not wanting to know God of course it's an insult to Him. Indifference is even worse than atheism.
I've never to robbed anyone, nor killed anyone.
Neither did I. But I'm still a terrible human.
Have you never erred in life? Never had lustful thoughts? Never wished something that wasn't yours?
I don't believe it.
Everyone sins and you are no exception.
That's the first step. Realising that we are imperfect beings. Being modest.
Just like the young rich man
Mark 10:19-22
Thou knowest the commandments: Do not commit adultery, do not kill, do not steal, bear not false witness, do no fraud, honour thy father and mother. But he answering, said to him: Master, all these things I have observed from my youth. And Jesus, looking on him, loved him and said to him: One thing is wanting unto thee. Go, sell whatsoever thou hast and give to the poor: and thou shalt have treasure in heaven. And come, follow me. Who being struck sad at that saying, went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
Following God requires an hell of an effort.
for those who hear the Word of Christ and reject it, it's over though.
Define that.
Christ calls us to follow him. Those who don't cannot be saved because he is the Way, the only Way to the Father, and He is in the Father and the Father in Him, because He and the Father are One.
Isn't you the arrogant one saying only your church can save people?
No because it's isn't an human opinion. In fact we would be saying our faith wasn't the true one if we gave everyone the benefit of doubt.
We believe in that because we are 100% certain of that because Jesus Himself founded the Catholic Church and proved his divinity with miracles and with His resurrection.
We recognise no other truth.
Human philosophies can be wrong, and we shouldn't think we are always right, but God is always right. That's why the Catholic Church is always right because God dwells in Her.
I just happen to not be compatible with christian teachings,
Why, and do you know what are those teachings?
Besides, I don't think there are good reasons to have faith, the facts as depicted by the bible are probably not true.
Because…
God gave me my brain, he wants me to think about this stuff and you know, be honest with myself.
Then read and use your brain and you will get to the truth.
People a billion times more smart than you or me got to the right conclusion.
Even great mathematicians and scientists you people love so much (I'm a scientist too)
Like Christianity? Believe and you will live forever and ever in heaven, with no bad feelings whatsoever, just you, Jesus, and the kittens
Blind belief won't get you nowhere.
You need to love God and your neighbour. Without that that's no salvation.
That depends. You can find supposed evidences for christianity, but you can easily make rational arguments against it too.
Can't contain my laughter.
I guess that's why thoughts of atheist and non Christian intellectuals refuted St. Thomas Aquinas arguments. Oh wait non of them did (or can).

Juan Cruz
Juan Cruz

Thousands of atheist
Fixed

Jose Adams
Jose Adams

I have one good excuse: my own intellect

We speak the same language then;

nature.com/news/fearful-memories-haunt-mouse-descendants-1.14272
Fearful memories haunt mouse descendants
Genetic imprint from traumatic experiences carries through at least two generations
A third generation of mice — the 'grandchildren' — also inherited this reaction, as did mice conceived through in vitro fertilization with sperm from males sensitized to acetophenone. Similar experiments showed that the response can also be transmitted down from the mother

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270066/
These results point to the nucleus of neurons as the potential locus of the engram in Aplysia

eneuro.org/content/early/2018/05/14/ENEURO.0038-18.2018
Thus, the behavioral, and a subset of the cellular, modifications characteristic of a form of nonassociative long-term memory in Aplysia can be transferred by RNA

So, I think genetic memory is well established;

reoxy.org/8circuit.htm#c7
The seventh brain kicks into action when the nervous system begins to receive signals from WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL NEURON, from the DNA-RNA dialogue. The first to achieve this mutation spoke of "memories of past lives," "reincarnation," "immortality," etc
Circuit VII is best considered, in terms of 1977 science, as the genetic archives, activated by anti-histone proteins. The DNA memory coiling back to the dawn of life. A sense of the inevitability of immortality and interspecies symbiosis comes to all circuit VII mutants; we now see that this, also, is an evolutionary forecast, since WE STAND RIGHT NOW ON THE DOOR-STEP OF EXTENDED LONGEVITY LEADING TO IMMORTALITY
Consciousness probably precedes the biological unit or DNA tape-loop. "Out-of-body experiences," "astral projection," contact with alien (extraterrestrial?) "entities" or with a galactic Overmind, etc., such as I've experienced, have all been reported for thousands of years, not merely by the ignorant, the superstitious, the gullible, but often by the finest minds among us (Socrates, Giordano Bruno, Edison, Buckminster Fuller, etc

If consciousness emerges from RNA, how much more of a stretch is it that consciousness emerges from the atoms composing RNA?

And if consciousness emerges from atoms, why not sub-atomic particles? Why can't consciousness be innate to matter? At that point, you've admitted to the soul.

Justin Martyr did this for you almost 2000 years ago. He used Paganism to set the stage for the outragious claims of Christianity. Anyone who tries to deny the immortal soul at this point is scientifically illiterate. Any other event in the Bible, I can also explain with reason.

I just happen to not be compatible with christian teachings, and disagree with them

Behold;

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16084184/
Male microchimerism in women without sons: quantitative assessment and correlation with pregnancy history
CONCLUSIONS: Male microchimerism was not infrequent in women without sons. Besides known pregnancies, other possible sources of male microchimerism include unrecognized spontaneous abortion, vanished male twin, an older brother transferred by the maternal circulation, or sexual intercourse

Women become marked by every man they have sex with. Anyone can tell how slutty a woman is - she'll have more unique Y's. God will not resurrect adulterers.

Besides, I don't think there are good reasons to have faith, the facts as depicted by the bible are probably not true

More;

ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.2017.17060616
Use of hormonal contraception was positively associated with subsequent suicide attempt and suicide. Adolescent women experienced the highest relative risk

Why does stuff the church say is evil make women unhappy?

God gave me my brain, he wants me to think about this stuff and you know, be honest with myself

How can he be more obvious? Everything he says not to do hurts you - only a blind-deaf man can ignore the message the LORD is screaming loud and clear.

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Evan Ross
Evan Ross

I've never to robbed anyone, nor killed anyone.
Wow, you want a cookie? 99% of humans, including lots of assholes and literal psychopaths, don't commit robberies or murders either. That's not good, that's just baseline.

Jordan Walker
Jordan Walker

Expect it is LITERALLY in scripture. You are the arrogant one thinking you can be saved and not be apart of the Church Jesus Himself set up.
Matthew 16:18-19 King James Version (KJV)

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

It's arrogant people like you that give anime a bad name. Repent and submit to Christ's Church or face the consequences of eternal hellfire.

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Jack Cooper
Jack Cooper

What about the Orthodox? They also have apostolic succession.

Bentley Gray
Bentley Gray

This is true. They also follow the councils and reaffirm the teachings in the Didache (the earliest catechism the apostles made). The problem is that they are schismatics that won't recognize the Pope's authority.

But even they are more saved than not even having a religion and just putting blind faith in the Bible.

Aiden Phillips
Aiden Phillips

Apostolic succession is eisegetical

Alexander Ward
Alexander Ward

How exactly is Christianity incompatible with your moral system OP? Please enlighten me.

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Henry Anderson
Henry Anderson

be me good
good person
That's where you're wrong.

Grayson Fisher
Grayson Fisher

What is good?

Sebastian Jones
Sebastian Jones

God.

Joshua Green
Joshua Green

You don't understand anything about limbo. Some one like OP can't go. Some one like Aristotle in 300ish BC can for entirely different reasons. OP is here on a Christian board, if Aristotle was introduced to Christianity (300ish BC btw, so what ever) and remained pagan he would have went to Gehenna.

Brayden Hernandez
Brayden Hernandez

you have no excuse to not know God
<I have one good excuse: my own intellect.

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Carson Flores
Carson Flores

be (You)
prideful person
"I'm good because I haven't raped or murdered anyone. I'm not going to Hell because I said so."
Repent any time.

Joseph Gonzalez
Joseph Gonzalez

u mad bro?

Kayden Nelson
Kayden Nelson

OP you're smug and prideful, you look down on others, and you have difficulty understanding or empathizing with other's perspectives. Why do you honestly think you're a good person?

Isaac Thompson
Isaac Thompson

I found the "other sheep" passage in John 10:16. In context, I figured that would just be the Gentiles, who hadn't been revealed to be eligible for salvation yet. The commentary on my Bible basically said this too, and referenced Isaiah 56:8 with this passage.

Oliver Moore
Oliver Moore

Cuckime strikes again!

Ryder Ross
Ryder Ross

Can someone educate me on the afterlife, Heaven, Hell, limbo, etc.
All I've really been aware of is Heaven and Hell, as far as I knew, limbo was a Catholic thing.

Kevin Miller
Kevin Miller

gentiles not only represent the actual gentile, but also represent anyone outside the faith. Christians are the new (and true) jews, those outside the faith are still considered gentiles

you only need to read St. Justin Martyr and the opinions of the Early Church on the matter, they thought it possible that people like Socrates may have been saved

Isaac Watson
Isaac Watson

Didn't find a diagram I liked, but Hell is layered. There are two major parts, the outer parts (Limbo, Abraham's bosom) and Gehenna (The lake/pit of fire.) If you are mortally sinful you go to Gehenna to contemplate your sins and suffer for them. On the other hand, there are many people in the old testament that were righteous, yet they had sins that could not be forgiven, as Christ had not yet died on the cross. Because of this they went to what was called Abraham's Bosom, a natural paradise. When Christ died he did not go to Gehenna, but to Abraham's Bosom (Limbo).

If unbaptized babies don't go to heaven, they go to limbo, which is a natural paradise, for they have no sins to contemplate, as another example. Also some one like Socrates who never had any exposure to God, but instead found what God is through reason and opening his heart likely went to Limbo.

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