Sacerdos in æternum

We all have these talks about finding a qt Christian waifu, but what about religious life? Have you considered becoming a priest or a monk, user?

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I'm young, so I'm sort of just leaving it up in the air atm. I am working on becoming an Oblate though… so I've got that going for me. Whether I go further or not depends on college debt, women, and whatever god has in store for me.

Why not both?
Begome Ordodogs and get the best of both worlds.

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1 Timothy 4:1-3 KJV forbids monasticism. It is a pagan RC invention.

aren't there restrictions? Even if I did want to convert to Orthodoxy so I can live out some dream of having a qt and be a priest, isn't it something you shouldn't do; I mean getting married first then becoming a priest right after. To me it seems they allow married men to be priests so that those who have a vocation revealed after their marriage can still be ordained.

Men with SSA cannot become clergy for good reasons.

Protanon….you do know John the Baptist was a hermit…right? Being a hermit is just like being a monk.

Also, relevant scripture you didn't read

[Numbers 6]
{6:1} And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying:
{6:2} Speak to the children of Israel, and thou shalt say to them: When a man, or woman, shall make a vow to be sanctified, and will consecrate themselves to the Lord:
{6:3} They shall abstain from wine, and from every thing that may make a man drunk. They shall not drink vinegar of wine, or of any other drink, nor any thing that is pressed out of the grape: nor shall they eat grapes either fresh or dried.
{6:4} All the days that they are consecrated to the Lord by vow: they shall eat nothing that cometh of the vineyard, from the raisin even to the kernel.
{6:5} All the time of his separation no razor shall pass over his head, until the day be fulfilled of his consecration to the Lord. He shall be holy, and shall let the hair of his head grow.
{6:6} All the time of his consecration he shall not go in to any dead,
{6:7} Neither shall he make himself unclean, even for his father, or for his mother, or for his brother, or for his sister, when they die, because the consecration of his God is upon his head.
{6:8} All the days of his separation he shall be holy to the Lord.
{6:9} But if any man die suddenly before him: the head of his consecration shall be defiled: and he shall shave it forthwith on the same day of his purification, and again on the seventh day.
{6:10} And on the eighth day he shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons to the priest in the entry of the covenant of the testimony.
{6:11} And the priest shall offer one for sin, and the other for a holocaust, and shall pray for him, for that he hath sinned by the dead: and he shall sanctify his head that day:
{6:12} And shall consecrate to the Lord the days of his separation, offering a lamb of one year for sin: yet so that the former days be made void, because his sanctification was profaned.
{6:13} This is the law of consecration. When the days which he had determined by vow shall be expired, he shall bring him to the door of the tabernacle of the covenant,
{6:14} And shall offer his oblation to the Lord: one he lamb of a year old without blemish for a holocaust, and one ewe lamb of a year old without blemish for a sin offering, and one ram without blemish for a victim of peace offering,
{6:15} A basket also of unleavened bread, tempered with oil, and wafers without leaven anointed with oil, and the libations of each:
{6:16} And the priest shall present them before the Lord, and shall offer both the sin offering and the holocaust.
{6:17} But the ram he shall immolate for a sacrifice of peace offering to the Lord, offering at the same time the basket of unleavened bread, and the libations that are due by custom.
{6:18} Then shall the hair of the consecration of the Nazarite, be shaved off before the door of the tabernacle of the covenant: and he shall take his hair, and lay it upon the fire, which is under the sacrifice of the peace offerings.
{6:19} And shall take the boiled shoulder of the ram, and one unleavened cake out of the basket, and one unleavened wafer, and he shall deliver them into the hands of the Nazarite, after his head is shaven.
{6:20} And receiving them again from him, he shall elevate them in the sight of the Lord: and they being sanctified shall belong to the priest, as the breast, which was commanded to be separated, and the shoulder. After this the Nazarite may drink wine.
{6:21} This is the law of the Nazarite, when he hath vowed his oblation to the Lord in the time of his consecration, besides those things which his hand shall find, according to that which he had vowed in his mind, so shall he do for the fulfilling of his sanctification

The monastic vow of poverty comes directly from the Book of Acts

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Yes. Married preists can't become bishops. My preist found the love of his life while he was in seminary and they got married just before he became ordained. As far as I know once you are ordained you can't marry. Usually, if your spouse dies before you and you are ordained than you can't marry again and traditionally encouraged to become a hieromonk (monks that are also priests and do priestly duties).

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Permanent deacons can marry, as can Oblates.


Did a good enough job rebuking this, but I'm just aggravated by the stupidity on display here. St. Anthony the Great's whole motivation to practice Christian monasticism was Matthew 19:21 "Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”'

Were there pagan monks? Yes, and according to the Desert Fathers the Pagan and Christian cenobitic communities live separately, yet the Christians would still show them charity if the occasion were to arise. There were vast differences in practice as well. Saying that just because other religious also had monks makes them heretical is like saying because other religions have priests and preachers those positions are heretical. This is infantile theology at its finest.

In the Roman Church? I did not know that. That's pretty cool.

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Yeah, perma deacons can marry, and if their spouse passes before them they're eligible to enter the priesthood to my understanding… not that those are particularly happy circumstances, but it's worth noting.

Lay Oblates being able to marry is a pretty noteworthy fixture of the practice. The whole reason St. Frances of Rome the patron of Oblates became an oblate in the first place was because she wanted to be a nun since childhood, but her parents had arranged marriage in place, and you know "Honor thy father". Not that she was spiteful being a Wife and Mother. Her story is a bit too lengthy and intriguing for an image board post though.

You have to be married before receiving Holy Orders. You cannot marry after receiving Holy Orders, even in the case of the permanent diaconate.

Suppose I should have specified that… but either way, the point was both having holy orders and being married isn't out of the question. I don't think I've ever met an unmarried permanent deacon before.

Or eastern gadolic and the best of three worlds!

Pretty sure that's a bad reason to change denoms.

Technically is only a change of rite, not denomination. But I agree. I'm just anal about these things.

Or
BEGOME WESTERN RITE
And get the best of four worlds.

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I have a dream of becoming a monk. Sadly I'm protestant so I should covert to Catholicism (this is not necessary a problem since I will propably anyway). The bigger problem is that I have history of schizophrenia and you would need to have clean mental health record in order to becoming a monk.

There are also other reasons like I'm in a long relationship and wouldn't want to break up and also I live in a country where there are no monastries so I would have to move abroad.

Most of these are just pathetic exuces, but I think the mental health issue could be the one breaking my dream. It's tough living in a monastry and you need to be in good shape both mentally and physically.

Wrong. As long as you can manage your illnesses properly, whether they are mental or physical, the only things you need to become a monk are: firstly, a calling from God that this is what He wants of you; and secondly, long-term perseverance and patience.

t. Catholic who frequently stays at a Benedictine abbey

You are a schizophrenic in a long term relationship? She must be one patient and loving woman. Maybe your calling isn't becomming a monk, but marrying her and leading her to Rome with you.

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It is a bad reason. In fact, Byzantine Rite bishops will heavily scrutinize Latin Catholics who change rites and then want to enter seminary and be ordained, especially if they're married, because they're always worried about people just trying to get around the Latin celibacy rule and not really wanting to be a priest of their Church. It's possible, but it's harder for people switching from the Latin Church.

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OP here, I think being a priest is the noblest call in life. Obviously not everyone has it, but the idea of being chosen to be filled by Christ and to administer the sacraments in His name and person just fills me with awe.
Last sunday they invited a young ICKSP priest to say mass, and at the end he gave his special blessing where almost the entire parish would come to the communion rail to receive it. Seemed like there was more love in that moment than in any act of marital life.
Of course the responsibilities of priesthood, the fear of sperging out and revealing a confession secret, the counseling work, etc. All seems like a huge cross to bear, way too much for someone who spends more than half of his time alone.

BEGOME EASTERN GATHOLIC

I'm aware. I have no intentions on of becoming a priest though… Was just notifying user of the technicality. I know you can only change rites once and never again, and that it's a several year long process.

I've contemplated switching rites before out of appreciation for eastern asceticism and I live within walking distance of an eastern church, and about 10 minutes from Ukrainian Catholic Eparchy of Saint Josaphat , but I chose to get into western monasticism instead as a sort of middle ground, since monasticism is founded mostly on eastern tradition. Also, my family is polish, so it would be kind of awkward.

I have contemplated it and came to the conclusion that I can serve God & my brothers better as a lay person. I'm open to God's will and will do whatever He wants, but I spent a lot of time thinking about this and am pretty confident about my choice.

How do you reconcile with Matthew 19:21 which says "Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me."
I ask not to accuse you of anything, I just mean for my own interest. I've been struggling with becoming a monastic, but I just feel like it would be abandoning my family and the outside world, who needs love now more than ever. I've been blessed with a minimal sex-drive and desire for temptations (used to be a porn addict, but it's faded), I naturally feel no attachment to things or need for things, so I think I'd be best as a hermit with a job to donate all excess money and spend as much time as possible with my family. If I can get married and have children, fine; and if not, so be it. But I'm unsure if I should just become a monk or not and I want to hear your reasoning for remaining in the world.

Paul is talking about Gnostics and Manicheans, not monks and priests. How many apostles did you see with wives?

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Married priests can't become bishops unless their wife dies. I believe this is the case of Bishop Paul in the OCA - he was a married priest and took monastic vows after his wife passed and subsequently become the bishop of the archdiocese of Chicago and the Midwest.

1 Tim 3:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach.

Here's the full context.
[1] A faithful saying: if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. [2] It behoveth therefore a bishop to be blameless, the husband of one wife, sober, prudent, of good behaviour, chaste, given to hospitality, a teacher, [3] Not given to wine, no striker, but modest, not quarrelsome, not covetous, but [4] One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all chastity. [5] But if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God? [6] Not a neophyte: lest being puffed up with pride, he fall into the judgment of the devil. [7] Moreover he must have a good testimony of them who are without: lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. [8] Deacons in like manner chaste, not double tongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre: [9] Holding the mystery of faith in a pure conscience. [10] And let these also first be proved: and so let them minister, having no crime.

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Frankly, if God is too much of a coward to step up and take responsibility for his actions and his followers are more than happy to enable his reckless behaviour under the common argument "muh free will exonerates God", why should I, or anyone, even bother following the impotent retard?

I see now why the kikes laugh at Christianity. It's a joke religion predicated entirely behind 'Heaven on a Stick,' don't mess up or you're going to suffer for eternity! This farce is unnecessary.

I spit on god.

Really just think about it. If your son murdered his brother then of course he should be punished. But wouldn't you contemplate your failures as a father?

God isn't infallible, so why would I follow him?