Well I certainly never thought he was viewed as the George Washington of the C of E or something like that so good to have that reinforced.
Inviting a priest from an other denomination to hold a talk seems weird but I hope he wasn't one of those Heterodox GOARCH kind of priests.
Anglican here. The monarch has a symbolic role in the CofE. She cant change doctrine but she is used a lot in high chuch theology. When we eventually rejoin Rome id like the British monarchy to have their place respected as part of the Anglican Patrimony.
I'm a High Church Anglican and i do believe that the Church of England is part of the legitimate body of Christ. We have valid apostolic succession (apart from the few """"bishops"""" who are w8men). I adhere to Anglicanism because it is /aesthetic/ and because i was raised Anglican. There is definitely a nationalist element to it but its a distinctly English Expression of nationalism. We call it High-Toryism, and its a reason the CofE is known as the Tory party at prayer, upholding values of God, King and country in an increasingly secular Britain. For example have a read about the Society of King Charles the Martyr. In quite lucky to live rurally but everyone I know is universally opposed to the inner city plebs ruining our national inheritance. As far as theology goes I have to confess i'm ignorant. I know in Anglicanism the Eucharist is professed to be the (literal) body and blood of Christ despite the 39 articles but its somehow different to transubstantiation?
Do you think that's still possible?
With the sucession problems(both Rome's objection, and the new women bishops), the high/low church divide, and a ton of other problems, i frankly don't see that happening.
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Fairly likely i'd say. As far as timescales go however this could be 40-50 years away. The only reason the CofE exists is because it is the national church. When you had young Anglican seminarians being asked whether they were Catholic or Protestant they would reply "Established". Once you remove this vital aspect of the church there is no reason for it to exist, lest we become 'just another' protestant denomination something I think Anglicans would recoil in horror at the thought of (more so than popery, a phobia which has almost died out). Disestablishment is coming, i don't know when but I know the reaction will be fierce. I reckon there will be massive pressure to re-join Rome under the ordinate from the Catholic/High Church wing which has resisted modernisation fairly well. But you are right, it will be quite a job trying to close Pandora's box. Obviously I cannot see the evangelicals agreeing to join so a schism is likely but I honestly don't see the pope rejecting Churches that are quite often (owing to novus ordo and other liturgical protestantism) more Catholic than the Catholics.
Can you explain more about GOARCH heterodoxy? Is this about ecumenism which I've heard is seen as a problem?
I can see the high churches and evangelical churches splitting up as the broad churches die out. What makes you think there would be such a desire to join Rome at this point though? All the divisions currently between us would still be there.
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The GOARCH stands for Greek Orthodox Archdiocese Of America, they do promote ecumenism to some extent but that's not the foremost issue with them.
Those under GOARCH are Americans of course, and they're infamous for being very liberal and badly catechized, if you encountered those Orthodox statistics being posted all the time as an argument here these are the kind of people they are asking.
When I mean GOARCH kind of I mean basically anyone like GOARCH laity, badly catechized, way too liberal and someone who often expresses Heterodox views aka, views that aren't in line with the Orthodox Church's views.
The issue of apostolic succession seems to me such a huge gamble in the Anglican church. How can you be sure that your priest has valid orders and is truly confecting the Eucharist when the episcopate throughout the years has been corrupted with female pretenders and protestants? When Pope Leo XIII declared Anglican orders to be null, your church reacted by bringing in "old catholic" bishops to co-consecrate in an attempt to restore apostolicity, and I don't think the validity of that is really disputed, but without knowing each and every priests lineage how can you be sure they aren't just laymen under a delusion? I'm assuming you do in fact believe that it's important for your priest to truly be a priest in your own sacramental theology. If I were in your shoes this would honestly drive me crazy.
What are your thoughts about the Future King of England planning to have "multi-faith coronation" and leaving the title "Defender of the Faith"?
How likely do you think it would be that Crown Prince Charles just abdicates the throne to Prince William?