Pope Francis?

Jaxon Thomas
Jaxon Thomas

Genuine thoughts on this man right here?

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Christian Smith
Christian Smith

maybe next time dont kiss the feet of south sudan president

Owen Green
Owen Green

Seems to have some kind of sexual fetish involving feet and exhibitionism.

Levi Adams
Levi Adams

Were I Pontiff, I could not do a better job. This is not saying I like him, this is saying I should never be Pontiff.

Aaron Morris
Aaron Morris

the false prophet mentioned in the book of Revelations. He's the face of the final corruption of the Catholic church.

Ryan Cooper
Ryan Cooper

He brought me to Orthodoxy.

Juan Wilson
Juan Wilson

The Church has had popes who have said and done worse things, people are overreacting.

Xavier Peterson
Xavier Peterson

Not a catholic, but I actually appreciate his… eschewing of pomp and circumstance. And again, I'm not even a Catholic, but I know very well that he's trying to emulate Jesus by washing/kissing feet. "He who is greatest among you must be your servant." Anyone against that is against their own Lord, and will have to learn the hard way if they do anything less.

I'm not in support of anything the papacy does in terms of liberalism and syncretism, but Francis is hardly responsible for the bulk of it.. and certainly washing of feet or not wanting his hand kissed are good actions.

Kayden Garcia
Kayden Garcia

He is the antithesis of everything catholic church needs right now.
Also I am suspicious of his hooked nose.

Gavin Mitchell
Gavin Mitchell

worse popes
It’s almost like the pope is just a bishop and equally susceptible to heresy as any other bishop… and primacy isn’t what RCC says it is… hmmm…

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Easton Sanders
Easton Sanders

you're missing the point. He wasn't saying that pope francis is a heretic but that we had worse heretics. He's saying that this pope is bad personal actions wise but we had even worse popes who commited all kinds of immorality way worse than kissing migrant's feet.

Jace Flores
Jace Flores

He's an anti-pope, just like every pope after 1958.

Jaxon Rodriguez
Jaxon Rodriguez

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Brandon Adams
Brandon Adams

He's a pretty cool guy. Eh kisses feet and doesn't afraid of anything.

Zachary Nguyen
Zachary Nguyen

I used to think he was a well-meaning guy but not exactly what the Church needed.
After his utter refusal to address the sex abuse claims, it's hard to think charitably of him. It seems like all he cares about is the PR of being "the hip quasi-liberal pope" instead of facing the issues that are driving people away from the faith in unprecedented numbers.

Noah Torres
Noah Torres

worse
A pope who commits murder is a terrible sinner, but they're not a heretic.
A pope who doesn't commit murder but says murder is not a sin is a heretic (and no longer pope).

Ayden Garcia
Ayden Garcia

turns over lists of priest's names to federal authorities
refusal to address sex abuse claims
Pick one.

Parker Wright
Parker Wright

All he's doing is helping the government persecute a bunch of scapegoats (some of whom are probably innocent and will be railroaded by the anti-Catholic secular authorities). He's not addressing the actual root cause of the sex abuse crisis, which is sexual corruption in the hierarchy and especially in the seminaries.

Carter Garcia
Carter Garcia

Like, how about he excommunicates a few of those Cardinals keeping gay rentboys in their Vatican apartments. How about he excommunicates James Martin or some of the other people trying to normalize sexual perversion. Then I'll believe he's serious. Until then it's nothing but damage control.

Austin Hill
Austin Hill

he doesn't do what I demand in the way I demand he does it!
this makes him an anti-pope!
Your pride will be your downfall.

Angel Smith
Angel Smith

I'm saying that he's clearly not doing shit about the sex abuse crisis beyond damage controlling. If he was he wouldn't have sat on McCarrick for years until the winnie the pooh secular press blew open the story and forced him to act. Don't put words in my mouth.

William Ross
William Ross

What lists did pope Francis turn over to the authorities? As far as I know you are simply making things up. Perhaps you are thinking of the individual bishops in the United States who acted on their own initiative without advice from Rome?

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Samuel Young
Samuel Young

The child sex abuse scandal has been a thing since before Francis was born. How the hell can you blame him for everything?
i-it totally wasn't Francis … I super swear! He … he … he's a filthy foot kissing libruhl D: D: D: D: D:
My God, you prots are pathetic.

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Owen Bell
Owen Bell

The child sex abuse scandal has been a thing since before Francis was born. How the hell can you blame him for everything?
We're blaming him for not doing anything about it RIGHT NOW. How does the fact that BXVI also covered up for McCarrick excuse the fact that Francis covered up McCarrick? How does the fact that BXVI did nothing substantive excuse the fact that Francis is doing nothing substantive?

Cooper Flores
Cooper Flores

He literally is doing something about it … RIGHT NOW. You just don't accept it because you can't let go of your rage-boner for his humility and foot kissing. You're a Prot, we get it. But since you're a Prot, it's not your problem.

Alexander Perez
Alexander Perez

Perverted old men raping boys and covering up for boy-rapists is everyone's problem you moron.

Noah Sanchez
Noah Sanchez

Abandoning the Ark of the Covenant because you don't like the captain
Wew lad

If he's Catholic it's very difficult to tell. I'm sure he'll be condemned as a formal heretic by a succeeding Pope. This too, shall pass. He isn't the first Pope who has been hand picked by global superpowers.

Oliver Sullivan
Oliver Sullivan

Not Protestant, but what are the lists you are talking about user? I’ll admit I’m not the most well-versed on the subject, but it does seem like Pope Francis was pretty tight with some bad dudes and only started doing stuff once it got leaked. Pope Benedict didn’t seem to do much about it either. I don’t get why he can’t just go ham and defrock a bunch of these creeps, he’s practically a king in terms of powers, no?

Charles Cox
Charles Cox

I’m actually Catholic bro. I have been paying a lot of attention to my Popes actions, associations and statements regarding the international abuse crisis. That is how I know that you are lying.

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Joshua James
Joshua James

Things like this:
nytimes.com/2019/01/31/us/priests-abuse-texas.html
As well as dozen of other stories if you'd just do a simple Google search.

Now, I know the next response will be "no, that's bishops going rogue!" but if you know anything about the Catholic Church, you'd know that bishops don't go rogue.
Again …

Angel Kelly
Angel Kelly

you'd know that bishops don't go rogue.
lol

Joshua Martinez
Joshua Martinez

You’re not making any sense and you’re not producing any proof that Francis has revealed any lists. I’m beginning to think that you’re a protestant Larping as a Catholic to make Catholics look bad. Or maybe you’re just a little special…

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Julian Sanders
Julian Sanders

shown evidence of Priests being turn over to authorities
doesn't fit personal narrative, so it must be a false flag
Oy vey …

Benjamin King
Benjamin King

I really wasn’t trying to be argumentative user, no reason to be uncivil, I just wanted you to back up what you were saying. I will reiterate however, that I don’t understand why Pope Francis can’t just go ham and start sacking guys left and right. It’s entirely possible that I don’t understand Papal structure very well, but Pope Francis seems like he has a lot of power that he’s not using for some reason or another.

Noah Ortiz
Noah Ortiz

He'll probably be anathematized like Pope Honorius I.

Jacob Nguyen
Jacob Nguyen

The spawn of satan

Thomas Ramirez
Thomas Ramirez

This just gets worse and worse the more I see it. Imagine how uncomfortable everyone must have been. Notice the second guy desperately whispering in his ear trying to get him to stop.

Cooper Kelly
Cooper Kelly

On the bright side, the young Catholics who actually go to Church more often than each Sunday are very fond of Holy Tradition, and they're certainly not heterodox. We'll see a Pius XIII in our lifetimes.

Dylan Martin
Dylan Martin

13 “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am. 14 Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. 15 I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. 16 Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. 17 Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them.

yeah dude, imagine how embarrassed the Apostles were when Christ washed their feet.

wait a minute…

There's nothing heterodox about following Christ's example. Screaming about Francis' goofy theology is one thing, but reviling the man for objectively doing something Christ would approve is hypocritical.

Nicholas Clark
Nicholas Clark

yeah dude, imagine how embarrassed the Apostles were when Christ washed their feet.
Guess what buddy, this isn't 1st century Palestine. Jesus washed people's feet, and people washed Jesus' feet, because that was the custom back then in that culture. I'm 100% sure that Jesus would have done the appropriate thing to make people comfortable and not embarrassed or confused anyone.

Brayden Murphy
Brayden Murphy

Guess what buddy, this isn't 1st century Palestine

Guess what buddy "14 Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. 15 I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you…. 17 Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them."

If doing things that are blessed are a bother to you, you must really ponder who your Lord is. Christ, or?

Mason Cruz
Mason Cruz

Are you really stupid enough to believe there;s some kind of transcendant metaphysical significance associated with washing someone's feet? The blessing is humbling yourself and showing hospitality.

In any case, why are we talking about washing feet? Francis didn't wash their feet, he kissed them, and it clearly made them very uncomfortable and weirded them out. Are you saying that they were in the wrong for being made uncomfortable?

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

Are you really stupid enough to believe there;s some kind of transcendant metaphysical significance associated with washing someone's feet?

I never said that, but I do believe it's an action that Christ said you would be "blessed" if you follow after Him.

You're not striving against me, you strive against Christ. I didn't say this.

Francis didn't wash their feet, he kissed them

16 Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him

The meaning is pretty clear; if Christ washed their feet, Francis - being a servant of Christ - shall go even further and humble himself more.

Jacob Carter
Jacob Carter

The meaning is pretty clear
I think Jesus Christ was pretty clear about what he thought of pharisaical adherence to the letter of the law instead of the spirit. Also about doing things in front a camera.

Andrew Gutierrez
Andrew Gutierrez

I think Jesus Christ was pretty clear about what he thought of pharisaical adherence to the letter of the law instead of the spirit.

So, you claim that washing someone's feet is a sinful adherence to the old law?

You say this, Christ says they would be blessed if they do as He did. Sorry, but if I have to choose between you or Christ…

Also about doing things in front a camera.

Christ raised the dead in front of a crowd, along many, many other things. Did Christ sin?

Michael Brown
Michael Brown

So, you claim that washing someone's feet is a sinful adherence to the old law?
Are you dumb or just being purposefully disingenuous? I'm saying that the spirit of the washing the feet teaching is to show people hospitality and make them feel comfortable. Francis did the opposite of that.

Christ raised the dead in front of a crowd, along many, many other things. Did Christ sin?
The equivalent would be if Jesus had brought along a bunch of professional couriers with him and then gotten those couriers to run around from place to place declaring how great Jesus was for raising the dead.

James Sanders
James Sanders

Are you dumb or just being purposefully disingenuous?

Neither, but Christ says something is explicitly "blessed", and here you are saying Christ is wrong. Which is it?

I'm saying that the spirit of the washing the feet teaching is to show people hospitality and make them feel comfortable. Francis did the opposite of that.

You know squat; only God knows the hearts of men. How can it be that Christ says one thing and you say another?

and then gotten those couriers to run around from place to place declaring how great Jesus was for raising the dead.

…you mean the Apostles…

William Jackson
William Jackson

here you are saying Christ is wrong
Nope, you keep putting words in my mouth. Disingenuous it is. The thing he is saying is blessed is humbling yourself and showing hospitality. He's not saying the specific act of washing feet, in isolation, is blessed.
You know squat; only God knows the hearts of men. How can it be that Christ says one thing and you say another?
What?
…you mean the Apostles…
No dipshit, because Jesus didn't send the apostles out for his own self-aggrandizement, he sent them out to preach the gospel to save people from Hell.

Zachary Hernandez
Zachary Hernandez

Nope, you keep putting words in my mouth. Disingenuous it is.

Look, Christ says that if you follow His example in washing the feet of those lower than you are blessed. Francis did this same thing, and went further because he knows he is servant of God, and not greater.

Where is the error? You cannot say it is being in public either, for Christ did many miracles in public. Only God knows the hearts of men, not you.

He's not saying the specific act of washing feet, in isolation, is blessed.

If it is done in imitation of Christ, it is blessed. You say otherwise, in contradiction of Christ.

No dipshit, because Jesus didn't send the apostles out for his own self-aggrandizement, he sent them out to preach the gospel to save people from Hell.

Christ rising people from the dead is part of the gospel itself, don't rage at me because you tripped over your own words. The primary task of the Apostles' were to spread the Gospel, just like couriers.

Josiah Reed
Josiah Reed

You are clearly retarded. Don't expect anymore responses from me.

Julian Evans
Julian Evans

Farewell.

William Miller
William Miller

worse heretics
Isn’t that agreeing that he is a heretic?
personal actions
Apostasy is apostasy. Placing the church as given to us by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost on the same level as Talmudism and Islam is apostasy. Maybe the papists should google what it means to be in communion with an apostate.

And I say that with love and charity.

The whole argument for Roman Catholicism rests on the primacy of Rome. But the pope does not have primacy obviously if he isn’t orthodox. There is no magic man made jurisdiction like Rome that is automatically protected from heresy.

Caleb Lopez
Caleb Lopez

But the pope does not have primacy obviously if he isn’t orthodox.

It's the other way, friend. St. Peter got the Keys and the Promise, anyone not in communion with the Seat is not part of the Church.

Gavin Brooks
Gavin Brooks

No friend, the whole Church got the promise not one magic jurisdiction. Christ said upon this rock of Peter ie the apostles He will build the Church. The jurisdiction of Rome didn’t even exist yet.

There is no magic bishopric or magic see or magic location that is immune from error. Those who accept the apostasy of ecumenism will have their lampstand removed and Rome has unfortunately.

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Jose Sanders
Jose Sanders

Go to bed OrthoLARP

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Dylan Wright
Dylan Wright

How could Rome have primacy if Francis is an apostate? He prays with Muslims and Jews.

Blake Harris
Blake Harris

The spiritual leader of your faith is indeed an apostate too… your point? He is only infallible ex cathedra.

Nicholas Wilson
Nicholas Wilson

Orthodoxy doesn’t have a “spiritual leader” as some kind of papal emperor who arbitrates on what is true and what isn’t, and neither did the early church. All bishops are equally capable of being correct or incorrect. We just have to trust Gods grace, Christ, and the Holy Spirit to guide us to the Orthodox position using the logic God gave us, following Holy Scripture and Holy Tradition.

Angel Adams
Angel Adams

Praying with heretics is automatic apostasy.

Samuel Hill
Samuel Hill

You can argue away a few of the things he says with technicalities and "Maybe he meant this", but his actions show he isn't a very good Pope, I only hope he is doing it out of ignorance and lukewarmness rather than actual malicious intent. He makes Cathokekism look like a joke

Angel Ward
Angel Ward

Pædophile like the rest of them

Grayson Harris
Grayson Harris

No friend, the whole Church got the promise not one magic jurisdiction.

No, Christ is addressing Cephas alone in Matthew 16:18. The other Apostles didn't even receive the authority until Matthew 18.

Christ said upon this rock of Peter ie the apostles

No, He proclaimed Simon Peter alone, and conferred the Keys and the Promise alone.

The Seat is an institution by Christ, not a position where you can freely claim anyone in the spot isn't Pope because you don't like him.

Justin Richardson
Justin Richardson

using Christ’s affirmation of Peter to justify a magical geographical jurisdiction where there can’t ever be error because muh keys muh keys muh keys
equating “the Church” with a bishop in Rome who is a visible apostate
well it’s referring to the seat (whatever that means) so you have to accept Rome’s apostasy
wew lad
wew indeed

Adrian White
Adrian White

Our faith as well as our countries are historically in the worst crisis yet. Here comes this embodiment of decay of our church.
you're just overreacting bro
how about…no

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