Genesis 32:30: “I have seen the face of God”
John 1:18 & 1 John 4:12: “Nobody has seen the face of God”
Please explain.
Genesis 32:30: “I have seen the face of God”
Julian Morales
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William Brooks
That Genesis verse was obviously a figure of speech
Isaac Perez
For what?
Colton Bell
For knowledge of God.
That should be obvious though if you read any other verse in the passage, because none of them describe Jacob literally seeing God's face.
Luke Rogers
Ok I see
Kevin Nguyen
Genesis 32 is referring to God the Son, i.e., Jesus' face is what Jacob saw.
John 1 & 4 are referring to God the Father. No-one has seen the face of God the Father. As he told Moses, "no man may see my face and live."
You are wrong. He wrestled with God. Do you think he wrestled with some stranger and somehow translated that into gaining knowledge of God? Your interpretation makes no sense.
Ian Jones
But Jesus’ body wasn’t created yet. You also make no sense
Joshua Wood
Wrong. Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Jesus has always been fully man as well as fully God. That includes his body.
Aiden Lewis
I don’t think there is proof of that in scripture.
Joshua Martinez
You don't think there's proof that God doesn't change in scripture?