Investigate it how? Divine revelation and paleontology are not the same subject and do not answer the same questions.
I did not say that it is not true, but that the manner in which it is true may not be something we can answer with words. Although, as far as the date and the gravity of the event are concerned, I 100% side with the scriptures here, if science disagrees then the scientific observation is incorrect. The scriptures put the flood as happening in 3135 BC, and the Fathers never suggest that the flood was not actually a worldwide event, on the contrary (to my knowledge anyway).
I'm ready to be accused of dishonest obscurantism for this. I trust the Word of God more than the observations and judgment of sinners, however.
Not that it's a big deal either way, because the topic of historicity of the Bible literally never comes up in my life. That's not what we should concern ourselves with. It's practically a footnote. God is there, here and now, waiting for our response to His call, and the Holy Spirit will give us full understanding in this way.
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Actually, that's true.
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So you don't care about the Scriptures being true or not, you just want to accept them as fact regardless of their veracity.
How old is pic related?
Except we should, due to the unsettling findings of natural sciences.
Yes, but is the Bible true? Let's find out!
We know, from the Holy Spirit inspiring the Church for centuries, that they are true. What scientists observe is their problem.
I don't know, or care, really.
Again, natural sciences are not theology. They are not liturgy. They are not sacraments. The Lord did not tell us to be concerned with that. But if they attack the testimony of the Church, do you want to side with them or with Christ? I know Who I want to side with, because we know the world will reject us, but He has conquered the world.
If you care about the truth, their findings are a big problem for you actually.
translation: I don't want to know because I'm scared.
Did the Flood happen during Noah's lifetime? Did the Flood not happen only 10 generations after Adam? When was Adam born? How old is the Earth? How old is pic related? I'll tell you, he first appeared about 200 million years ago!
The question to ask is: if the Earth is proven to be about 4.5 billion years old and the Sun about 4.6 billion years old, how can we trust Scripture?
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Jesus Christ is the truth, and we already know Him. Do scientists have a hidden sacrament that we did not receive?
Scared of what? Scared of losing my salvation? But the Church already gives us the means to be saved.
I recommend you read my other posts in this thread.
I'm not going to entertain you if you are going to be rude, however. We are still in the period of Lent.
I am exercising the full extent of my patience in humouring the idea that this is not trolling.
Science is not infallible so long as it is in the hands of fallible human observers like yourself.
You are fallible because you cannot prove your own existence. A false measuring tool falsifies the science it supports, ergo as all human measurement is false, all science is false.
Your unfounded belief in it is tantamount to faith, and faith dictates reality.
The earth was literally, physically, demonstrably flat. The earth was 6000 years old, was consumed by a flood, was host to Babel, etc.
But without faith in God, it currently, in our subjective reality, is not.
A godless generation has corrupted the past as much as they have the present with their faith in false prophets, and you insist on counting yourself amongst them.
You know nothing. You are incapable of knowing anything. You must prove an "I" exists before you dare claim it "knows" anything, and the wisest men dead and alive will bow their heads to hear you speak if you ever can.
I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom, and also of madness and folly, but I learned that this, too, is a chasing after the wind. For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes 1:17-18
>It could just be that we weren't aware of sin and death. We certainly sinned before the fall.
Sorry God said as soon as they eat(sin/fall) they shall die not before. God didn't make it a mystery where we would't be aware he addressed humans directly on the subject.
And yes they started hiding but after eating the fruit.
You only need death before to make evolution work that's all.
Again where was it observed that a beneficial mutation created new genetic material?
Should all of our scientific findings and technological advancements be discarded?
Scared that your understanding of reality is false.