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You could always use another font...

Yes - it's rather unfortunate that the only use ports have on OpenBSD is compiling it from source. But, I don't really need to customize packages (I have zero bloatware on my personal computer - this means no modern browsers). On a different note - Portmaster is written entirely in shell script, I think Portage should have been the same way (I hate Python).

I want out of this timeline

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FreeBSD is the Linux of BSDs.

care to elaborate?

I personally hated openbsd when I tried it and loved freebsd. OpenBSD seems to break everything but the default installation and oh boy that ethernet configuration... jesus christ.

t. ex-gentooman bosding from freebsd

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The GPL is considered harmful:
gng.z505.com/cult.htm
gng.z505.com/stallmanism.htm
z505.com/cgi-bin/qkcont/qkcont.cgi?p=Please-Stop-Using-GNU-Licenses
gng.z505.com/fsf-gnu-site-bug.htm
I'm glad other people have been posting this website lately. Stallman claimed OpenBSD "has non-free software" because he failed to understand the ports system - he also was completely ignorant of how Theo has railed against blobs for drivers (they still are fighting against them now, even though Linux has given up - Theo even got an award from the FSF).
fsdaily.com/stop-blob
marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=143355112811564&w=2

Eh, you can customize ports if you just edit the Makefile. In the past I customized Lynx by simply adding some of the configure arguments to port's Makefile.

I hate the GPL for those reasons, and I think Linux will go down the drain definitely once Torvalds retires in 10 to 20 years time, and perhaps sooner with the encroachment of ShitstemDicks and DunceAudio.
Where can I find a guide to OpenBSD (for example) aimed at loonix users? e.g. what's the equivalent of /dev/sda, how to change the console font, etc.

There's nothing specifically tailored for Linux users, but there are good introductory books that explain everything:
Absolute OpenBSD
The Book of PF

I'd use a BSD if there was a way to use it as a Gentoo-like source distribution. OpenBSD doesn't even have port configuration, unlike the other BSDs. And the others BSDs don't have a way to update all ports (maybe synth for free/dfly?).

Would be 10/10 if portage was re-created in compiled language (not exherbo--curse those faggos) and used in the bsds.

openbsd.org/faq/ports/ports.html

Gentoo user here what's wrong with exherbo?

>GPL is bad because [insert subjective opinions of literallywho here]
Every goddamn time.

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You're right. New board rule. You can post whatever the fuck you want except for GPL shit.

Did you read what I said? There's no way to enable/disable at compile time unlike ebuilds or all other BSDs. inb4 flavour. And how do I do "update all of the software I installed via port (build and install)"? Probably can't.

Way to completely ignore all the good things OpenBSD has done outlined in that post. The GPL wants a world where only it exists. Do you even understand why its considered viral (and what happens if I GPL something). Written by lawyers... The ones making six figures at the FSF?
Please don't bring up software quality; even Lintards admit the code quality of the GNU utils are dogshit - and Theo vomited when he saw the kernel code during the heartbleed era. Don't forget - you directly benefit from LibreSSL and OpenSSH.
At least you admit it.

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I didn’t ignore any of the good things OpenBSD has done. Neither did I bring up the software quality: the fact that OpenBSD people write better software than GNU is a well-known one. All I said is that the BSD license is shit (in comparison to GPLv2 or GPLv3) and pointer out some bullshit. And I don’t really care how much money FSF earns, nor have I ever heard them begging for donations. Stop LARPing.

The GPL is great. I'm not sure why BSD cucks hate it so much. Those excuses don't seem valid.

I'm going to use BSD. BSD respects my freedom unlike the restrictive GPL virus.

ask for a match in #openbsd-gaming on freenode, or what the channelname was. be sure to post screencaps of your openbsd installation

You can either work for free you fucking nigger cattle or you can work for free you dumb fucking nigger cattle. What a range of copyright options our software lawyers have allowed us.
oy vey let's argue about our rabbis definition of the word free

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I can't tell if this is some kind of insecurity or an attempt to divide *nix users. Why would anyone be proud to see their brother get hurt. Why seek validation through proxy?

If you're not against this subversive bullshit, you're against us (us as in the few sane people remaining in ethnically european countries).

You don't see it that's all. In time you'll realise what a cult this crap is.

bsd.slashdot.org/story/07/04/07/1618239/gpl-code-found-in-openbsd-wireless-driver
"The mailing lists were buzzing recently when Michael Buesch, one of the maintainers for the GPL'd bc43xx Broadcom wireless chip driver project, called the OpenBSD folks to task for apparently including code without permission from his project in the OpenBSD bcw project, which aims to provide functionality with Broadcom wireless chips under that OS. It seems that the problem has been resolved for now with the BSD driver author totally giving up on the project and Theo De Raadt taking the position that Buesch's posts on the subject were 'inhuman.'"

The reason BSD cucks hate the GPL so much is because they want to take free software and make it proprietary with minimal effort and then distribute it to make a profit off it. Because the GPL does not just bend over like BSD they get pissed that users are defended.

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Open source is all cucked. Any developer that releases it is wasting their time. Write software and sell it. Fuck the users.

I wish Zig Forums was better than this...

Licenses are just tools to be used for a specific purpose, what license I release my code under is simply a reflection of what I intend my code to achieve. GPL LGPL and BSD all have specific uses and there are many people who don't release code under the appropriate license for what they want to achieve. Whats somewhat ironic about the GPL is the fears that Stallman had in regards to the permissive licenses such as BSD ended up not manifesting in reality since the large companies which use OpenBSD and FreeBSD actively contribute back to it while the GPL had to go through 2 revisions since it failed several times to safeguard Linux and other projects from misuse.

Seriously, people on this board put so much effort into shitposting about licenses they are never going to use since few people here actually code.

The only people who think that the code in the Linux kernel is great are those that have never had to work on it or don't know any better. The Linux kernel code is by far the most disgusting code I have ever had to work on. Most codebases I can think of with permissive licenses are better than their respective GPL counterparts, EASTL is better than libC++, LLVM is better than GCC, etc.

I use CC0/MIT; the main issue I have is when people use the GPL for libraries. I never link any programs I write to GPL libraries because there's too many licensing headaches to deal with. The lines are blurry on how you can and can't use GPL software, and to what extent you are liable to release your own work.
Not all of us are libertards. I find it silly that the people who tout this ideology think humans are 'peaceful' and we all default to folk dancing while holding hands (completely ignorant of human history).

What contributions are you credited for user?

Most actual libertarians don't think that, the consequentialist argument for libertarianism is that humans are inherently evil and greedy and therefore its a bad idea to put anyone in a position of inherent power over anyone else. Whats interesting is this position is backed up by studies done over the last decade or so which have proven the adage that power corrupts, being in a position of power literally causes changes in your brain which reduce empathy and for undesirable personality traits such as NPD, BPD, etc to develop.

None yet, in my last job I worked on the kernel component of proprietary software, in my current job I am working on code which we are hoping to get upstreamed but that's still months away.

What about the non aggression principle? Do you _really_ think people would follow it?

People don't avoid the rattlesnake because it warns people to leave it alone, people avoid it because they know the consequence of not leaving it alone is getting bitten by a venomous snake. The simple reality is only the potential consequences of fucking with someone else are what deter people from doing so, the NAP more of a general rule of thumb to determine who was in the wrong when someone ends up receiving high speed lead poisoning.

While you're not wrong, the "I'll just get a bigger gun" mindset libertarians have is foolish - a bigger gun will not stop an army.

To be clear, what I mean is this: a libertarian utopia is not sustainable, because avarice is human nature. When a hedge fund manager comes for you, your "bigger gun" will not stop him.

Yes it fucking will. Its called MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION. Its the only reason we are not all fucking dead right now.

Your "bigger gun" will stop an army led by hedge fund managers? MAD only makes sense in the context of nukes.

Which is what we will all purchase shares of.

Use DragonflyBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD or GNU/Linux. Everyone who continues using FreeBSD is cuck.

All of those have shitty ZFS support the worlds best file system.

It would be easier if you could have a killfile to filter out the idiots that keep spamming about licenses.

FreeBSD rocks my dude, fuck the CoC what can ya do.
T. Hardcore gentoo user

Opinion disregarded.

But its true user

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It is... I wonder if humanity is incapable of managing millions of lines of code without resorting to violence?

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OK but at the bare minimum the operating system and compiler should be free software. Pay them like road workers developing public infrastructure.

tcc is smaller

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it doesn't even work properly for many packages and it generates shit code. you'll have to install another compiler along with it.
to be fair though, the only reason why things don't work with tcc is because people use (((GNU extensions))) cancer in their code. Embrace, extend, extinguish. Such is the motto of GNU.

You clearly haven't worked in the software business because it takes way less than a million lines of code to necessitate violence.

You can manually translate your shit to binary if you want maximum minimalism™. Just because it's smaller doesn't make it produce better binaries.

This. Long time FreeBSD user, moved to OpenBSD. FreeBSD is for satanist faggots that rape children and their degenerate practices finally leaked into and fucked their code.

Nope, HAMMER is more comfy

Soon, you too will be compiled!

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Yeah fuck anyone for wanting to profit and maintain ownership over the product of their labor. REAL SCUM. They should just make vlogs begging for money and setting up a patreon where they get to make less than a single entry level developer.

comfy means missing basic features

svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=332873

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They still have ownership of all the code written. It's not like public domain where now everyone owns your code. They also have ownership of everything else of their project like branding, documentation, artwork, and music.

BSD would be like M$ if Linux was absent. tried BSD once, nearly got cancer from it.

I used BSD once, everything was tranny semen and basically furry porn.

Software is not like a car or house. If you publish the source you have just granted them an infinite duplicator. Better to just do web services where you keep it to yourself.

Did you know trannies have a problem with ingrown hairs from their ballsacks which make up the skin of their mangled "vaginas"? Fun fact.

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of just the code for the project
If you are basing your business on selling some mathematical function you came up with, you have much deeper problems.

Even worse

If you are basing your business on some arbitrary configuration of atoms you have much deeper problems.

You know that's not an argument.

That was certainly embarrassing; but, there was a time when OpenBSD was using ath5k drivers and Linux was stuck with madwifi proprietary drivers. Theo also does not allow *any* blobs to be run by the CPU.
Also, this:
marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118965266709012&w=2

If you are calling large software projects "some mathematical function you came up with" then cars and food are just some combination of atoms. A real shit attempt at belittling a business model.

Artificial scarcity for a set of mathematical functions is a brittle business model. The reason why it's so successful is because people are taught to respect such a brittle way of business.

Its not a brittle business model. Someone has to write that code. Its not fucking you, its Engineers at Google. And the best part is they don't even have to GIVE it to you.

Look man they don't have to hand you the program. They run the program in their little box and control your access to it. Software companies are alive and well, proprietary software and platforms will continue forever. These platforms are not dependent on your "respect" for them.

Yeah reverse engineering software is so easy. That binary they give you is totally equivalent to the build process they used to generate it. I'm sure you will get really far thinking that way.

Really when someone buys a car they are just buying metal rubber and electronics. The whole mathematical process behind those raw materials is a brittle model.

Mods deleted the CTS labs Jew thread but leave obvious bait like this up. Good job faggots.

Sorry forgot to do something here.

What I want to try is plan9, sounds like it isn't cucked.

Use 9front but yeah.

Who are those "people"? I want to avoid their code.

Why are there digimon on the wall behind them?

They are not valid because it is a person spreading lies.

If you are going to use BSD, use DragonflyBSD, it atleast tries to do anything different

Lies? You mean the fact that the GPL has more restrictions than BSD is a lie? GPL does not respect your freedom. BSD gives you the power to do what you wish.

Some could still hear the GNUfag, slowly fading into silence, shouting: "Four Freedoms."