uwu when is this gonna happen? I want my comfy lightweight editor!
When will Zi come out??
Ian Cox
Gabriel Cook
Why are animefaggots incapable of discussing anything without also uploading an anime picture? You are a Jon Lachney level soyboy.
Henry Gutierrez
The GNU project has its own extension language Guile, why do they never use it? What advantage does Lua have?
David Jenkins
fucking dropped
Charles Lopez
There's an alternative acronym: Zile Is Lossy Emacs.
h-he's cute though.
i dont drink/eat soy. Aside from soy sauce on Japanese food of course ^.^
Brandon Brown
Found the clueless cuckchanner.
Luke Gomez
Use nvi then.
Andrew Reed
Modal editing/control characters were a mistake. Use mg or ed (both are in OpenBSD's base install).
Camden Collins
Everything went downhill when people started writing computer programs. Break the cycle, don't use a text editor.
Leo Rogers
Because 1. programmer doesn't know scheme 2. programmer doesn't care about scheme 3. programmer picked a better scheme than Guile.
The only way someone uses Guile is if they are literally a GNU tard. There's no other way you'd pick it.
It's easy and nice to use for everyone.
Lucas James
Then what is Guile if not a language? In before
Scheme is not a language, its specification is so spartan that every implementation adds so much on top of it that it becomes effectively its own language. Usually an implementation picks up one revision of the RnRS as a base, and then keeps adding its own stuff on top of that, while only implementing some features of a newer spec. Guile still does not and probably never will fully support R6RS or R7RS (small).
Jackson Young
* Scheme is not a real language was what I meant to say. Scheme is more akin to an idea of a language, and as with every idea, people end up implementing it differently.
Luke Nelson
Just because there isn't a reference implementation for Scheme doesn't make it less than a full language. Scheme is a full language that has had seven revisions to the language specification over its existance since 1970. It's even a part of the IEEE standard.
Noah Reed
If pic is not related, not even in a metaphorical sense, don't post pic.
Mason Wood
>>>/auschwitz/
just use busybox vi
do you realize where you are faggot
Ryder Gutierrez
Vi is based on ed, and that's where the modality comes from. Anyway it's much better and easier on your hands than chords like emacs.
Landon Edwards
If you like drinking soy while you watch your anime and take it from behind from your boyfriend's boyfriend, that's your own problem but don't be a hypocrite about it.
Ayden Price
What exactly is Zile anyway? From the description on the website it sounds like a text editor toolkit or library written in Lua, but now that I downloaded the source code it doesn't mention Lua or being a toolkit or using Lua anywhere, it's just a smaller Emacs.
Noah Young
You seem to be rather confused. Anime is not particularly gay by itself. Rather, pretending to be an anime girl on Zig Forums is.
Julian Perez
What are these common algorithms and data-structures the author speaks of?
Robert Bennett
things you need to manage text buffers in memory. e.g. how to represent insertion of text in the middle of a huge chink.
Joshua Carter
Go into more detail.
Tyler Johnson
No. Go look at it yourself. I haven't personally used it so I can't tell you any more.
Wyatt Garcia
It's not spoonfeeding, it's answering a question. It's alright if you don't know; just say so.
Jason Richardson
It is spoonfeeding. Spoonfeeding is asking easy questions for attention or because you are too lazy. See: shitoverpozz. OP posted a link (underlined text starting with http:// or ) which you can click on using your mouse. (No, you can't click using your keyboard. No, that's not a touchscreen.) Is babby happy now. Ok go to bed. No you can't piss on the keyboard.
Xavier Gonzalez
Amazing. Why you even bothered to reply is beyond me.
Ryan Sanchez
*giggles*
Evan Adams
I could look it up no problem. But you can too. So go look it up. You're the one who wants to know.
Fuck off. Don't pretend that you're not a faggot.
Alexander Bennett
write it in C using ncurses. then edit ncurses and remove the bloat from ncurses
Landon Brooks
ncurses is garbage. manage the terminal yourself.
Henry Cook
i was just trying to give an example of an easier way to make your own text editor. its a better way then zile
Aiden Morris
this. The only types of terminal which are used nowadays are 1. vt100 compatible (linux, xterm etc.) and dumb (anything which isn't vt100 compatible).
For vt100 compatible standard escape sequences will always work. For dumb terminal, ed-style line editing is all you'll get.
true as well. zile takes the interesting parts out of writing an editor.
Jose Lewis
Yeah that confuses me too. Maybe there's something I'm not seeing? I hope that gnu.org page isn't inaccurate, as I'd really be interested in that vi clone editor.
I actually have been checking out ed. It's not bad I guess. Here's a resource that explains how to use it.
sanctum.geek.nz
vi is technically based on ex, which is similar to ed but kinda "upgraded".
wait is ncurses bloat now?? how?
im not larping as an anime girl. im a boy, silly!
Owen Ross
Terminal management is only tangentially related to text editing. It's an user interface issue. It should have nothing to do with the "data structures and algorithms" the author of Zile keeps talking about, which probably refer to some segmented array type.
Jack Young
Have you actually used ncurses? It's a pain in the ass. It's an exceedingly old library and it shows.
Jayden Powell
its old but it works. does everything you need it to do.
Dominic Bell
Using terminal control codes does the same thing and is simpler.
Jeremiah Long
...
Kayden Stewart
simpler? do you even know why people use ncurses?
Jason Jenkins
curses (especially ncurses) is a huge bunch of bloat. I can write a functional replacement for ncurses in one or two days. But rewriting curses to its original specification is much more difficult because it includes lots of useless and unnecessary features and "optimizations".
Noah Thomas
sure :^)
Brody Perry
sure :^)
Jordan Richardson
Mate, do you even know how terminals work? It's pretty simple.
Jack Gray
ncurses doesnt only just give you the ability to move the cursor around on the screen and write stuff. It is optimize to reduce the latency experienced from normal methods.
sure you could write all your code using terminal codes but ncurses goes beyond that. it not only works on every terminal it does all the heavy lifting for buffering the screen so it limits "screen tearing" that normal method that normal methods come across.
Jackson Gutierrez
ncurses simply uses alternate buffer modes built into terminal emulators, and there's still plenty of tearing in my experience; ncurses makes absolutely no difference in that regard.
Jack Wright
I took a look at the repo on Savannah. There is indeed a Lua branch, but it hasn't been committed to in years. I'd say it's dead and Zile is still just a baby Emacs.
Since no one bothered actually responding: the only data structure I know of is a rope:
en.wikipedia.org
If the other anons could be less gay for a moment they could name-drop some more structures and algorithms. I'm not asking for a complete lesson, just point me in the right direction.
Ryan Torres
Thanks for actually providing signal instead of noise. I sorta remembered that text editors broke down the text into smaller chunks, I just didn't quite remember the name of the thing. I was thinking of this linked arrays structure when I asked the question:
en.wikipedia.org
But the rope seems to be tree-like. Apparently, nodes also aggregate the lengths of their children; it sounds like an useful feature but it's not clear to my why exactly. Manipulation algorithms aren't clear to me, either.
Adam Bailey
Another structure that seems to be relevant: