The funny thing is that it's incompatible with current existing european laws:
The E-Commerce Directive forbids general monitoring obligations, which even the European Parliament Research Service says Article 13 would establish. Other premises of Article 13 are also unsupported by existing law and jurisprudence, including the assertion that platforms “optimizing the presentation” of uploaded content become liable for infringements.
An appeal to all other European anons
Dominic Perry
Josiah Wilson
As much as I'd hate to see this pass, I'd love seeing google image search, youtube and facebook get fucked sideways.
Andrew Baker
Are you a fucking retard? It's elected by the parliament, which is elected by universal suffrage by European citizens, and by their own governments, which are in turn elected democratically. Exactly like the government of literally no country is elected by their people. When was the last time Brits elected their government? They didn't, they elected MP's that in turn voted for a head of government, that in turn chose her government. France and the USA? The President was elected by universal suffrage, which then either chose the government himself (USA) or appointed a prime minister who acts as the head of government, and chose his ministers (France). Spain, Germany? They elect MP's, and MP's elect a head of government/chancellor. Hell, you fucking know it.
If you say the EU is undemocratic, at least be consistent and don't think any other country is more democratic. Maybe Switzerland, but that's about it.
BTW, European citizens do have legislative initiative. If you get 1 million signatures from people from I think 15+ EU countries, you can force the parliament to debate a law.
Chase Carter
You should be coding your fucking website rather than touching things you don't fucking understand.
1/2
Yeah, indeed. But there is no european people. So europe is not democratic by definition. There is so much distance between european people and the finally elected people in the european parliament that you can safely say that it's not elected by people.
You're comparing the uncomparable. You're comparing elected president with direct votes, that then chose the different ministers, INSIDE A COUNTRY, with the european system. People vote for a president, for a program, for a party. There is an unique people voting. So even if the minister are not directly elected, they're a very close proximity between people's vote that elect the president and the minister. In france by the way, the president have the power, so it's even bigger here.
But at the european level, there is 28 FUCKING STATES involved. So you'll never ever get what you voted for. That's simply impossible. And there, we enter in the main fucking problem with the european union: the number of stat involve. It's simple: it can't work. Because you can't resolve all of the different interests between the members. Some countries will always win, and some will always lose in a decision.
So there must be a strong reason why this union exist then, to accept all of this constraints. Wait, there is none.
The two main reason invoked toward the european union contruction is one, the end of wars, and two, the counterweight against USA.
First, every european country, through NATO, under direct american command, are constantly war with the rest of the world. So they're not fighting between each other (that's not even true, if you look at economical warfare abroad, germnay/france for exemple fighting between each other to sell their fucking train), but don't worry, the ammunition factories are working like hell.
Second, a counterweight against USA. That must be the most retarded and wrong argument ever, for one simple reason: the european union have been pushed and build mainly by the USA themselves. The main european "founding fathers" where paid by the CIA.
Proof:
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The truth regarding europe is that it's a contruction built by the USA to passively occupate europe after world war two. France, for exemple, never regained its freedom after WW2. The occupants simply changed, from Germany to USA.
Tyler Reyes
Another argument against european union is that european people have to vote to approve changes relative to constitution and to treaties, but they removed it because people were voting against.
For exemple, in 2005, French people voted against the Maastritch european constitution, it still have been applied, even though people have voted against.
To conclude, let's talk about the euro currency. You should know that every national central bank have been kept, so what is called euros is actually just a rename. Every national currency have been maintained. To build a constant rate, they had to actually take every currencies, and they averaged them. So the money is very good for the german economy, and the poorer the country is, the worste the money is for the country. Moreover, there is a mechanism that artificially keep a constant repartition of the currency in europe. This is TARGET2. And that is because of TARGET2 that Germany is shitting itself right now.
Get to know TARGET2, and you'll understand why the euro currency will fall, why europe will scramble, and why Germany is gonna be hurt bad.
https ://www. ecb.europa.eu/paym/t2/html/index.en.html
I'll not even talk about the massive building in front of the european parliament full of lobbyst, that are putting huge pressure against the parliament. There is no people here.
Brody Diaz
Germany really bought it upon themselves, selling out their people for fucking Volkswagen profit. That's unsustainable anyway in the long term, but they don't care.
I really wish the EU was something different. It should have started as a military alliance to develop independence from the USA and Turkey, but they have chosen the way to fast and easy money, but it's quickly drying up.
The borders have to close up as much as possible and there has to be restructuring, otherwise there'll be nothing left for us to save or defend. And in countries like the UK, Germany or France that probably necessitates a coup, seeing how they're duped with things like Brexit.
Jason Taylor
There's several misconceptions and I won't go in deep, but the first thing of all is that France has always remained pretty free from the USA in comparison to other cold war US colonies such as Spain, Greece or Germany. For instance, removing France from the integrated NATO commandment, or the French support of Israel against Egypt (supported by the US and the USSR) during the Suez crisis, or the US (and USSR) support for Algerian independence.
You're right to point out that the EU is foremost a strategic and geopolitical entity rather than what some liberals like to view as an utopia, but it doens't make the EU particularly more or less democratic than its individual members. I don't see what NATO has to do with the EU btw, especially considering that the current EU trend is to form a continental army, effectively opening the possibility for the end of NATO.
The 2005 constitution itself wasn't applied, it was the Lisbon treaty of 2009 that came to replace it, but don't act as if no country ever has enacted laws, or or taken actions, that its citizens did not want. The most recent example I can recall is of the federal US government granting gays the right to vote, which would have probably not passed in an awful lot of states, had it been in a referendum. Or the relationship Spain has with NATO.
Welcome to Capitalism fam, the goal isn't to have a charity, it's to make money.
Dylan Nguyen
lol, the blackpiller with his low creativity as usual.
The weak will perish as usual. Let them.
Hunter Allen
Meant to marry lmao
Samuel Sanchez
Not an argument
Thanks to De Gaulle, but this time ended pretty quickly (1968). France always had a special place in europe anyway (after Great Britain obviously). That's the country of the french revolution, and that's the "cultural base" of the oligarchy. USA didn't need to make France submit, because it's an actor of globalisation/egalitarism/New Age itself.
You're only right in the fact that democracy don't exist, and never was a thing in the first place. So saying that european union is as tyranic than states, that's not that wrong. But back to the right, there is no european people, so europe is not democratic by definition.
NATO is the military entity, and EU the political one. They tried to actually include every country that were in NATO, in the european union. So actually NATO is more important than the EU in that regard, and in the regard of the EU being an american created political entity. That's why USA is forcing the european union to accept Turkey. Turkey is unofficially a member anway, through bilateral treaties.
What a fucking argument is that. If a government would do illegal activities, then they need to be punished and inprison. That's not normal. They don't have the right to do that. Saying that EU can be corrupted because governments are corrupted is a none argument. That's an incredibly retarded point of view. Europe don't want to ask for people's opinion because it goes against national interests, very hardly. We're not talking about common people needs, nor talking about gay fucking marriage, you fucking faggot, but about treaties that is gonna change tremendously how things work, the economy, basic liberties work. For exemple, Europe decide ALONE what the general economical orientation is gonna be in the member state. That's the same for immigration. The general destruction of work rights and the passive privatization of national companies is a direct consequence of these orientations. And since the oligarchy is always making elected a pro europe, they're all applied exactly what is said.
But I don't even know why I bother to answer, since you seem to think that democracy is actually a thing. You seem to be european. Some wanker against brexit?