Be freetard

Yeah, it's a pain in the ass, but the fact is that if you're in publicly-funded education, they have serious budget concerns. They use Microsoft products becuase it's the cheapest to learn, the cheapest to teach, and the cheapest to get support for. Freedom is a real concern, and I'm a freetard myself, but practically, FOSS is often more expensive to work into a fully-functioning system, and it's unrealistic to expect any public education to stretch their already-thin budgets more than they already are for honestly niche philosophical reasons.

similar to the time we had to do a team building excersize where we where to design a tower out of paper. we had a team of 4 2 niggers a grill and me, the 2 niggers fucked off and looked at spongebob memes on a nearby mac computer while me and the girl made a tower.

when you are in school, you do it the way that the school tells you.
You don't walk in demanding to do everything your way because you know everything already.
You will look like an arrogant idiot. End of discussion.

(Also: this answer is the same if they tell you to use PC or Mac, and you wanna use Mac/PC instead)

And honestly----Visual Studio is probably the best IDE around, and has been since Borland got out of that business 15-20 years ago.
It is tied to MS, but it is also the best IDE for making Windows programs, easily. With it, you can get more done, faster, than any other non-MS IDE.
You may not believe this now--but once you get used to using VS, when you must use anything else you often end up wishing that you could use VS instead.


Yea, sure. And if you're actually working in CS and they tell you to use Windows and Excel, go to a different job...

I dunno where you are, but in the US there is a lot of employers who are 100% Microsoft--Vis Studio, Office and repo/cloud service.
And you are an idiot to think that you can get hired and walk in to an entry-level job, and insist that they change everything they already use just to suit you.

If anyone on here says that you should demand FOSS anywhere you go, it's a pretty good bet that they are a neckbeard teenager who hasn't held an IT job yet.

Damn, it was clear to me for years that burgerreich is a third world shithole.
But every time I read something like this it still surprises me.

Just use mono

I sort of agree, however they have quite a decent server with a good connection, so instead of going for microsoft they could have setup nextcloud or something. But yea, microsoft probably was the easier choice.
Public education in Germany isn't all that terrible, it's very uncommon to go to a private school over here. Mostly either rich chinks or children of football players etc.

Yea, I agree. I just setup a windows 7 VM with the classic theme and all settings turned down and it runs fine I guess. Visual studio obviously is the best IDE out there, FOSS IDEs don't even get close.
I guess I'll just force myself through this C# shit and then hopefully do C and ASM in vim or emacs.

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I'm not saying that public education is terrible, just that they always are at the limit of their budget. Microsoft isn't objectively easier to learn or teach, but it is cheaper just by merit of more people already knowing it. It's also a barrier because most of what the average student knows is either Windows or sometimes surface-level Mac shit. So in any case, switching to FOSS systems and education is an extra cost of some sort.

I don't know how Germany's public schools settle their budget, but here in the US, we have school boards, so budget changes have to be approved by a panel that runs the school district, so you'd have to justify the cost, and it would have to be entirely with average effectiveness of education. If you can argue that it makes the education more effective in ways that would show real results (and possibly enable a bigger budget), then they might move toward it. If all you've got is ideological arguments, that's not going to sway a school board unless can demonstrate that it's a very widespread concern. I don't like Microsoft, but there's a big reason they're everywhere in education, and most of that reason is just that it's the most-known and least-friction option.

C# destroyed entire Microsoft ecosystem and they had to restart and completely change the way they develop, never forget
Microsoft!
And there are people who want use it for everything else

Microsoft had already destroyed their ecosystem. It was fucking miserable writing C++ for Windows and I totally understand why MS devs were even using trash like VB to get away from it. 5 different variants of a function taking 10 arguments half of which are NULL or pointers to nested structures of NULL. I think I've got around 100 LoC somewhere just to do the equivalent of strerror() with FormatMessage().

stay jealous