Any of you guys have websites?

what's up spyware, how's it going?

I've been thinking--your site is great for linking to to point out the botnet in a lot of things. Do you think you could do articles on the practices of entire companies? Having an article on, say, google's business practices would be neat, and anytime someone asks you could point them to that article.

It would be a harder task and might take a bit of digging and some work to polish and verify the sources, but it would be cool. You could probably get some people to help you by sending in articles/links or verifying things.

Currently Stallman has good page as a starting point to look at the general practices of Google: stallman.org/google.html

I don't think it would be so unreasonable to have at least something about Google as a company. There are already articles about some of the software it makes, so there is already a good foundation.

Probably another company that could be easily written about is Oath. The article on Yahoo search is really mostly just about how horrible Oath is, and so it could be restructured so that one main article about Oath can branch off to specifics about it's holdings- mainly Yahoo/AOL Search, and Tumblr, I know it has other stuff but I can't name those things off the top of my head.

Here's an attempt at a start: spyware.neocities.org/articles/google.html

Basically just consolidating links to information about Google already on the site onto one page. Still right now Stallman's page is way more useful than mine, so I would show people his page first. It's a very good idea though, and it makes it much easier for me to put stuff up.

I just noticed that RMS himself linked to your page. Moving up the ladder, huh?

it's nice. I just thought that maybe (if you wanted to go in this direction) you could attempt to make the article more normie-friendly. The thing about RMS is he's quite a character and honestly can be off-putting, and for many people it may be hard to understand why "libre" is good.

it looks great so far. One thing that I think has made your site more popular is the way you write your articles, they're generally well-written and clear. I've seen your site linked pretty often, certainly more than I see stallman's site. Although that may be an effect of where I spend my time.

RMS has linked to my page for a while now. Actually that is really the reason that the site became so popular. I hadn't really updated much since I wrote my first articles with digdeeper, and suddenly a huge amount of people started reading it. When RMS linked too it, it was really in bad shape. The first iteration of the site, which wasn't saved on archive.org unfortunately, used two different rating systems across all the articles, because I had this idea of rating things based on points for having spyware features, and digdeeper used his own rating style (out of 5 ratings) on his articles, which was really a better idea, and so I had to spend a lot of time cleaning up all the articles and adding new ones so that it would be a better resource.

I think one reason that you might see my site more is because it isn't written in any kind of partisan way, it just promotes one idea. That makes it easier to get the point across, maybe. It's hard to criticize the site on anything other than it's ideas about privacy, because there isn't anything else there to look at.

My idea, which I have had for a while, but haven't taken the time to actually do it, is to write about video games more. The site mostly has content about web browsers, and so you mostly see it on forums and discussions about web browsers; but having a lot of content about games could get people to talk about it on video game forums, which have a much wider audience, and there is a lot more to write about.

I was thinking about this and looked at Stallman's page again. I think that we're both being very unfair to him since we both criticized him on some level "in general" and totally ignored the actual page in question. It's a very good page, there is nothing there but links to various articles that explain why you shouldn't use Google in a perfectly clear way, so I can't agree anymore since his page is very clean and to-the-point.

Sage for double-posting

The recent deltarune game apparently has some spyware in it - you might want to check it out. It is hugely popular.

Holy shit, they successfully shot some favelado with an SMG from a helicopter

Are you a faggot or just stupid?

oh yeah, it's a good page, no doubt, but I just see him as potentially offputting to a lot of people, and IMHO if you want to make a difference you need to appeal to all those people. it doesn't help preaching to the choir, if you understand what I mean.


the guys was suggesting he "check it out" and by that he means that spyware watchdog should analyze it. he'd probably do it inside a VM anyway.


this is a great idea. I don't post on video game forums or anything but if they're popular than that could definitely help. But make sure not to overdo it, you don't want the whole thing to be flooded with only video game articles.

neat, it looks a bit like the sites made with werc