Do you hide your real politics irl?
I feel like I'm finally becoming confident enough to discuss politics with my family, coworkers and people from uni. It feels good and I've seen some positive responses so I think all is fine until my country inevitably succumbs to death squad-ism
I hide some aspects of my politics, but not all. Most of my family (Except my father) already know my ideology, just not the full extent of it. I don't really mention politics around my friends, although I do talk about Communism / Socialism with my best friend, but he's a brainlet when it comes to politics.
I don't really know my politics yet, I haven't read enough to really get a grasp on our situation here and what would be the best course for change. Though I'm flirting very hard with Maoism rn.
It's sort of an open secret in my conservative family that I'm a leftist, but my friends know I'm full commie.
why would you hide it? youth is overwhelmingly leftist, the only political thing that could legit get you into trouble is racism, literally everything else is a-ok
seriously even being a pedo is more understandable in society than being a racist, no one gives a shit if you are a leftist
I don't care much for preaching my ideology to everyone but I don't bother hiding it either. If something political comes up I say what I think, if someone asks me if I'm a commie I say yes.
Most people I know are giga brainlets who see all politics in us-and-them. Like Žižek's bit on Pokemon go.
Nope. Mostly because the only issues in village are “PRO” or “AGAINST” independence
It's literally illegal to be communist in the USA, and you will be blacklisted if you're communist, so yes, I hide my politics in many contexts.
Don't call your ideas socialist or communist, don't use Marxist terms or mention revolution, just wrap your ideas in more palatable terms like "workplace democracy" instead of "collective ownership of the MOP" or "neoliberal elites" instead of "the capitalist bourgeois class". Eventually, they'll soften up to your ideas, as most people have some idea that they're being fucked in this system, but don't know how to put it into a concrete ideology. Once they're ready, you reveal to them that everything they agree with is what Marx said, and it'll work. I've done this on all my friends and family and I know it works.
I am not openly communist except with one or two of my friends, and even then I never talk about it.
I just try to insert bits and pieces, but I try to avoid politics IRL because they ruin birthday parties.
That's hiding my politics. Moreover, you can get a lot of people onboard with that kind of trickery, but they'll still instantly freak out when you start really defending the USSR and denouncing imperialism.
Stop being a pussy
Stop being un-pragmatic. If being pussy's gonna help us win, so be it.
Like I said, take it slow. When it comes to talking about the USSR, take it real slow. You have to keep at it for a really long time before you can start defending the USSR.
you're just amusing yourself with opportunism. your socialist hobby. all I am pointing out is that if you are not openly advocating communism, and you ARE a communist, then you are hiding your views. "take it slow" is worthless and accomplishes nothing.
Nope, when I started radicalizing someone on here managed to convince me that I should be open about being a Communist with my friends and family, since it's certainly not evil, unlike Fascism.
I totally regret it now, it comes up on a daily basis and my friends and family won't take anything I say about politics seriously anymore.
I'm thinking of slowly pretending to become a social democrat so they will get off my back about it already. Every argument devolves into "Human nature" and "100 million dead."
It's just not worth the time to argue when they already have their mind set.
I did manage to turn one of my ancap friends into an ancom, and push a couple of them into center-left territory though, so I guess it wasn't all a waste of time.
I don't have to, thank you Comrade Corbyn.
If you just charge headlong right into pure ideology, nobody'll take you seriously. See for an example of this. Instantly outing yourself as somebody no normie's gonna listen to is far less productive than gradually attracting people. ou get more flies with honey, comrade.
Never I defend stalin, ghaddafi, assad, north korea, fidel in public all the time. The more people the better, I don't give a shit. Talk shit about socialism get your ass whooped
communism is not "pure ideology" you fucking idiot.
oh ok, nobody will take communism seriously if you advocate for it… nobody will take communism seriously if you don't! And who is this "nobody"? There are hundreds of millions of devout communists all over the world. If you think nobody will "take it seriously," then you are in enemy territory!
Do you have ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT reading comprehension? I have explicitly said I don't bring up communism in many contexts (workplace for instance), because I know that it can ruin my life and make me even more useless to the communist movement.
They go away when they honey goes away, you are back at square one, stop jacking yourself off.
That's not what I meant. By "pure ideology", I meant the pure unadulterated version of one's ideology.
China does not count.
Not only do communists in China count, but so do communists in India, Africa, Latin America, the DPRK, Cuba, Russia, and everywhere else. Hundreds of millions of devout communists. Kill yourself you disgusting chauvinist.
Woah, who's being chauvinist? You're acting as if I'm putting down all leftists in the 3rd World when I mean nothing of the sort. No idea how you got that from what I said. And I don't mean to imply that my ideology is the only right one, but that you start off with the not-so-extreme stuff AND THEN progress to the actual ideas, when trying to radicalize in right-leaning areas like the US. Chill the fuck out and think of the pragmatics.
I hide the more economic aspects
but I do defend the legacy of Stalin, albeit in a "he did some good, some bad" kind of way
But Communism is an economic ideology user.
I stopped giving a fuck years ago. I openly tell people that the USSR should have won the cold war.
I'm NutSac and when I talk to people about why it's good, I try to avoid the things that would come off dogmatic, i.e: Hitler, Holohaux, Jews, the name 'National Socialism' itself.
If you ever expect to get anywhere when discussing anything political, speak about the ethical reasoning behind your political followings. For example, instead of talking about Jews, I speak about greed, supremacy and corruption.
what a faggot
I've found it's surprisingly easy to redpill liberals about the DPRK now that Trump and Kim are having their dispute.
I dunno if being a Social Nationalist/Georgist is a good idea to talk to my folks about.
wow aren't you different
I get vocally political if I'm drunk
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Why would i trust a jobless bum who mooched off his rich jewish friend then wrote books about the "workers party" and other political bullshit just for the accolades?
what country is that op?
Honestly, I think it’s better just to just get right into the more radical aspects and history of socialism, including why Stalin did nothing wrong. The issue of today is that communism and far-leftism are seen as taboo and an outdated 20th century idea. Simply the more people talk about it, and the less we pussy foot around hiding our true ideas and intentions behind more palatable buzzwords, the better.
Because he's right, faggot
never talking to anybody is true praxis
Facts dont care about your feelings
This NutSac is making a better case then you two on your own board.
I'm quite brazen about my politics. If anything I try and humanise my politics by talking a lot about peace, helping the poor and the environment while tying my views to Communist imagery. That's how I do entryism, anyway.
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Oh, found the anarkiddie.
I avoid specifically referring to my views as Marxism when discussing them with baby boomers and gen x since they are still mostly red scared. If you just simply talk about class warfare and dialectical materialism with them, they tend to be more accepting to the idea. But if its millennials or gen z then I go full Marx.
Has worked for the most part. The key is not using buzzwords as that tends to put up the political blinders for the older generation and appealing to some of their already implanted beliefs. For example I had a boomer for a roommate who constantly bitched about immigrants. I got him to understand how immigration benefits porky as a cheap labor source for exploitation.