Law of Value and Wages

Which way is that, exactly?

This sort of welfare reform would be a million times easier than seizing the means of production, come on!

I'd hardly call it a democracy. We just get to pick between two people who get to oppress us. We already have constant wars anyways despite people not liking them. Your opinion doesn't matter.
Jesus, you're an imbecile. The law doesn't matter. You think governments don't do "illegal" shit all the time? The United States tortures people all over the world, and that's illegal. Do they stop? No. Legality doesn't matter. The bourgeoisie will do anything to maintain power.

Better != Enough (an btw the only way to understand why it isn't enough is by analyzing and understanding the laws of the system we live in (so that's why it's relevant))

One, I don't agree, and two the courts certainly wouldn't support him.

I don't think it's enough either, but it's an important first step. Once the people are liberated from squalor, then they can organize to achieve further reforms.

You understand that the US was founded by a bunch of slave-owners who deliberately set up the government to be hard to modify, right? Have you ever wondered why it was such a pain in the ass to modify the constitution here?
The government is such a fucking obfuscated mess that it'd be hard to utilize to accomplish our goals.

We don't give a shit about "welfare", we want to abolish exploitation and capitalism.

We have to found a new socialist party to represent our interests.

Because we're not organized well enough.


All of that was legally justified according to their lawyers. And they're much more restricted domestically than internationally. If they tried to do some sort of deep state coup, and there was evidence, we could nail them in court, which would be a major political victory.

They made it hard, but not impossible. We could amend the constitution if we had the numbers.

This is also ultimately my goal. See

Bernie Sanders constantly talks about how "the establishment is corrupted " and how it "does the bidding of wall street" and that "we need a political revolution" (youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig c'mon it's not that hard). But as socialists we should go further and recognize that any form of parliamentary democracy is unable to represent anyone but high status people (the ruling class).

Welfare is a minor good for the working class and a distraction that the ruling class uses to dissipate the labour movement in rich countries (see Bismarck).