What Makes Zig Forums Zig Forums?

I think this is a really good analysis - dumb people looking for easy scapegoats for why their lives suck.

To add, a friend showed me halfchan way back in 2009, and I feel like I've kind of seen how the Zig Forums culture has developed.

Way back, I think most of the racism was done ironically. It was always distasteful, but people meant it as a joke. But the anti-black stuff became more and more rabid, to the point that /new/ (news, which existed before Zig Forums) was just overrun with people trying to be as offensively racist as possible. That board was closed, but the racism effectively just spilled out onto the rest of the site, so when Zig Forums was started it was basically a containment board, much the same way /mlp/ was started to get all the brony crap off the other boards.

Around 2015 it was already getting really toxically racist. There was a clear moment where you could tell that there were older posters who would make a racist joke, and then the responders would all take it dead serious, posting a bunch of pseudo-scientific nonsense about immigrant crime, or black intelligence, etc. Finally it became pretty clear that the legitimate racists had taken over.

Then the Trump campaign happened, and retards on the board got really riled up, and the white supremacist youth base of that campaign became really explicit. That only grew stronger and stronger through 2016 and into 2017. I remember in early 2017 a German acquaintance said "just watch, antisemitism will come next." I honestly didn't believe him, it seemed too weird that antiquated old anti-Jewish conspiracies could possibly make a comeback. But now, that's exactly where we are. It's fucked up.

This, it's actually pretty weird. Both talking to people on halfchan/pol/ and lurking alt right Facebook pages, you see that they're into all sorts of weird, messed up stuff, and they always come up with bizarre rationalizations why it's totally okay for them to be into transexual porn, or to be really into anime waifus, or to be a white supremacist despite being Filipino. There's also a way darker side - I've never run into so many people coming up for excuses for why rape is okay, or why age consent laws should be lowered or repealed. Stomach churning stuff. It's painfully ironic that they're clearly the most fucked up people imaginable, and yet they're on a purity crusade.

100% northwest europe here

Degenerates yes. That is pervasive. But it is very white. Not going to post a wall of photos but the times they actually tried to do protests it reminded me of those old protests against Scientology. (Pic attached of a "free speech" rally in Boston organized over Zig Forums)

There's a reason why Zig Forums memes of the "enemy" often show a multicultural horde, because that's what protests against the far right look like in America outside of extremely-white cities like Portland. Though, it's also often the case that socialist organizations are very white. The thing to understand about black and brown populations in the U.S. is they do not trust whites (they have reasons for that), but they will oppose the far right. The other photo is of protesters gathering at a Richard Spencer event in Florida.

I went to a BLM protest once and there was a black man who got up and spoke, and said he initially didn't even want to come out because it was being held in front of a police station, which terrified him. If the white left organize and get their people out, people of color will also come out, but those populations don't have the capacity to really do it outside of their own immediate neighborhoods.

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Or do it on their own outside their own immediate neighborhoods.

Fascism was literally made by degenerates.

Primo de Rivera was reported to be a playboy, Vidkun Quisling didn't take his marriage seriously, etc. The trend of the Far Right being absolutely degenerate continues to this day. The intellectuals of Nouvelle Droit were literally wife swappers, and I'm sure I don't need to explain what Matt Heimbach recently got caught doing.

Hitler wasn't that good on sexuality, tbqh. He curbed a lot of the excesses of Weimar, but he thought whores could be "rehabilitated" and turned into German wives and mothers. He reportedly hated the stigma surrounding single mothers, and the Lebensborn program was, in part, launched to allow genetically healthy German women to give birth outside of marriage without shame. Evola thought concerns of virginity were "low and worldly," while 'ascended' people only cared about sex as a way to reach enlightenment as it "unified two halves."

Have you heard of Dirlewanger The Noble Aryan?

Yeah this is definitely not true. I don't know about Wisconsin but Oregon (and the rest of the PNW) has a huge neonazi population, I'm pretty sure they have the most neonazis per capita in the US (though obviously I have no numbers to prove that). It's true that there's also a significant anarchist and general left-wing representation but I think you're being way too generous. As for the race of neonazis it's true that some of them are self-hating Jews or Africans or whatever but the huge majority are 100% "White", or at least are perceived as being so.

Tbf a decently-sized portion of them are white hispanics or hapas

the turn from not-serious to serious happened around 2013 when stormfront literally psyop'd Zig Forums

It gets clearer when you realize that their worldviews are shaped by their own pervasive autism. They think human society is immoral and repugnant because they are immoral and repugnant. The left thinks society is basically good because it's not collectively fucked in the head.