Eugenics in communism

Because, although a child being born with downs is undoubtedly a mistake, it should not be a mistake made twice.

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Not a satisfactory answer. That approach restricts peoples right to self determinaton depending on their genetic status. It's not egalitarian, and opens the door to other types of discrimination.

What "right of self determination" are you talking? To put a burden on a person, just because you wanted a child? The child is forced to go through a painful life, not the parents.

Nobody should procreate. This is the correct eugenic position.

I agree with both of you and the way I see it, one way to present eugenics in a manner that people won't immediately shun you is by not using a "only allow the strong to survive" or some shit like that, but say something like "we would prefer if humans with more desirable traits and genes are given a way to pass on their trait while humans with more undesirable traits (how undesirable and what qualifies as undesirable is up to debate) are not killed off but are in a way suggested to not pass on their genes".
also what are your thoughts on state sponsored I Q tests and bonuses to people with high I Qs to have more children?

"The free choice of one's own acts without external compulsion". My problem is not with the external compulsion per se, but the notion that a person with downs should have restrictions on procreation that their parents did not. That the rights of citizens should not be universal, but dependent on their genetic status.
>To put a burden on a person, just because you wanted a child? The child is forced to go through a painful life, not the parents.
Thats an argument against letting people have children at all, not against letting downs people have children. It also assumes the life of a person with downs is more painfull than that of a normal person, there is no reason for that to be the case under communism. To each according to their needs and all that.

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its pseudo baloney.

fuck off op

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