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A Gender Critical (GC) position is a metaphysical position about what a woman is. Here is one position held by many radical feminists. It holds that what it is to be a woman is to have a certain biological and reproductive nature, involving female sex organs and a female reproductive system, and to be economically, socially, politically, and sexually oppressed on that basis. This view therefore concludes (for reasons I have also outlined elsewhere, here and here, and which I do not know yet whether I endorse), that transwomen, though fully in possession of all basic human rights (obviously!), and also deserving of respectful treatment as if they are women in many social contexts, are not in fact women. Simply put: they don’t have the required biology, nor do they have the required history of oppression on the basis of that biology.

In contrast, there are those metaphysical positions which argue that transwomen are women. These usually argue that women’s biologies and reproductive capacities are not essential to their nature as women. People with penises and testicles and no female reproductive characteristics can be women.

Since I began to read up about this dispute, and started to write about it, I’ve been exposed to a lot of arguments, usually online, whose aim is to show that any GC position is not only wrong but bad, morally speaking. It seems to me that many of these arguments are not convincing. This isn’t to say that there are no good arguments against a GC position, but only that the ones I typically see aren’t particularly compelling. It’s also striking how difficult it seems for some people to see for themselves how unconvincing these arguments are, in the heat of the negative emotions, toxicity, and defensiveness that tend to accompany discussion.

What makes a TW a woman?

“TW have female brains, and this is what makes them women”.
We don’t identify who is a woman, and who isn’t, on the basis of brain scans, and nor, I suggest, are we ever likely to.

“TW are women because they like and/or are good at doing ‘feminine’ things (e.g. long shiny hair, ‘girly’ fashion, make up, the colour pink, a ‘femme’ aesthetic, cooking, cleaning, crying, dancing, being sexually passive etc. etc.)”.
Liking ‘feminine’ things can’t be a necessary condition of being a woman, because so many women don’t like ‘feminine’ things, and they are still unambiguously women, Everybody knows this, or should do. Equally there are many men who like those very same things.

“TW are women because they have body dysphoria and feel like they are in the wrong body”
It is not true that TW are actually “in the wrong body’” in any medically recognised sense. The best sense to be made of the talk of “being in the wrong body” is that people with dysphoria are miserable with the bodies they have, and that this is severely impeding their living the lives they want. This seems obviously true and is to be highly regretted. But this in itself doesn’t make males with body dysphoria women

“If you make biology and reproduction essential to womanhood, you are doing nothing more than ‘fetishizing body parts’. In fact, female biology and reproduction are only contingent features of womanhood. Not all women have them.”
This is an implication of the view that says transwomen are women. Now, for most women-who-aren’t-transwomen, it’s central to their sense of self-identity that they’re women, not men. For many, it’s equally central to their self-identity that, as a woman, they have a female body. Women are socialised into the world as a certain kind of entity, with a certain kind of body, and taught to relate to themselves as such 

“Many transpeople indisputably suffer enormously from body dysphoria. You, a non-dysphoric woman-who-aren’t-transwoman, can’t imagine the suffering of feeling like you are born in the wrong body. If we can do something small to alleviate that suffering, by recognising and validating their status as women, shouldn’t we try do it?”
There are a number of relevant things to say here. The first is obviously, to acknowledge the intense pain of body dysphoria as absolutely tormenting. The second is to say that there are many types of severe and distressing unease, but we do not automatically act to change the world to fit the object of those feelings, in other case. Such change is not a given; there have to be good socially useful reasons for it. A third thing to say is that nonetheless, the intensity of body dysphoria is clearly one important factor to be considered; but that there are other feelings to take into account too.

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How?
Actually, most people have the time to create art. In fact, the best artists I know IRL are workers who chose to do something productive with their spare time.
"Pleasant looking" is subjective… The rest is a vulgar generalization of "most art"

It's a good article.>>2653713

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being mentally ill can be cured.
you cannot know how it feels to be in a different body because you never were in one.

also, I thought you can be a 100% man man and still be a woman if you "identify" as one, so, stop pandering to "sexual" what's the word…stereotypes or whatever the mentally ill are using.

We honestly should start banning ContraPoints (or any other youtube liberal) threads so that they are kept in /leftytrash/ where they belong.


ContraPoints and friends are all liberals, they aren't fucking socialists, they don't want to be socialists, and the more you tolerate and shill for their bullshit here the more liberal this board will become. I don't want this place to turn into fucking r/socialism faggots fucking stop your shit

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to suicide? lmao