And for what it's worth, the fact that a lot of Westerners who live in developed cities with global industries have a tendency toward social liberalism shouldn't surprise anyone. That's exactly what you should expect given the character of production and consumption in these places.
Likewise, if a bunch of farmers or industrial workers have actually reactionary views, then that shouldn't surprise anyone either – considering that they are working in industries which are tied to particular places. There is more of a suspicion of those "not from 'round here."
Yeah I remember hearing someone several years before this whole mess started say about cultural appropriation: the one white person you can't credibly accuse of cultural appropriation is a white nationalist. It's the logical conclusion of that kind of thinking.
Of course not. I don't know about social movements and so on but there are gay nightclubs in the big cities and everything. There are DJs from Russia who play on the international gay circuit party scene. I think the Russian government is not a fan of demonstrations (of any kind) but has a hands-off approach to the nightlife. It's probably a nightmare in the Caucasus though.
Incidentally, I remember watching Alexander Dugin on some Russian T.V. program being interviewed by this (conservative) pro-government host. And Dugin was going on about Western liberal rainbow totalitarianism being this big threat and the host got skeptical and replied "gays? Oh Mr. Dugin I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill on this one."
William Clark
Most of them are above age, but it does give me age. Sad that ukrainian zapadnyk has million subscribers and cult like fallowing and these guys few dozen thousands.
Nicholas Cook
Also while I mention it, my city in Texas has a gay rodeo association (the two guys pictured are members), a gay cowboy nightclub and the pride festival draws 40,000 people usually – a broad and multi-racial sector that is predominantly working class. I don't know how to do things in Russia and I don't offer advice but in the U.S. things are a lot different.
Okay last post and I'll stop gaying it up here. But I was down in the neighborhood last night and snapped this pic. Last week, the state (with its conservative government) put up a historical marker at the site of one of the first gay bars in the great state of Texas. Isn't that nice?
Of course if Zig Forums is reading this I'm sure they are freaking out, and I hope they do, and I'll warn them that any attempt to vandalize our beloved marker is a state felony and there are cameras and security all along that block – and people are out late at night and some of them carry concealed handguns. A guy tried to rob a gay guy down there a few weeks ago but miscalculated and got shot because of his mistake.
So what does this have to do with the class struggle? Well… not a whole lot to be honest. But not everything does you know? And that's fine. There are other social and political struggles that happen in the world and you don't need to get all bent out of shape by it. It is a problem when milquetoast liberals use LGBT people, or people of color and so on as a shield to prevent economic change. But some harebrained attempt to become reactionary on social issues as a way to (insincerely I might add) win over social conservatives to our cause is doomed to fail.
Is there a place where they celebrate people for being straight?
Welp, literally protected by the State.
Isaiah Perez
There's actually a song about this called "Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond Of Each Other" which Willie Nelson covered: youtube.com/watch?v=hajTNlooZKE
Burnt Reynolds, Zig Forums macho man, was in the video as well. My favorite line is "What did you think all them saddles and boots was about?" Another good one is: "Well, a cowboy may brag about things that he's done with his women, but the ones who brag the loudest are the ones that are most likely queer."
That's right muchacho. It's literally state property.
Cameron Barnes
C'mon user. Its kind of a big deal to go from being a persecuted class to finally having your unions recognised by the state. But knowing better, those are on a thin string and is tantamount to shaky promise. Which is why defending it is important, never trust the state, knowing capitalism it was just another audience to sell too.
Anthony Clark
So what you're saying is: "Homosexuals need to be beaten to death in the city, suburbs, and rural areas? Thanks much to you comrade!
