Flawless plan:

True, but there is a difference between a private citizen funding an ideology and a state trying to spread their own ideology.

Eat capitalism from the inside.

Soros doesn't do shit for the left.

Socialism is about our self-interest as the proles. If you were a billionaire, it'd hardly be in your self-interest, given how nobody gets that rich without being part of the ruling class.

It's unlikely sure, but a possibility. Obviously you would have to go against your self interest, but you could be rewarded as the father of a modern communist enlightenment.

To be fair plenty of aristocrats aided with the Jacobins, class traitors can and do exist

Flawless plan:

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The damage you would have done to the working class to get that kind of money outweighs the benefits of having a class conscious billionaire who funds leftist initiatives.
The reason billionaires can fund pro-capitalist opinions like what the Kochs are doing is because the media under capitalism is run by the ruling class, if some leftist tried to fund rebels or activists his career would be over. Like the one thing that capitalists don't tolerate is when other capitalists fuck them over.

A billionare could become a socdem if he's smart enough to realise that libertarian policies aren't in his class interest. Advocating for a socialist mode of production? Extremely unlikely.

yeah but he dun fund the karltural marx school of social justice

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. I think it would be worth it

Flawless plan:

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I'll ask Soros if he's interested

I unironically think about it often. There are smart people here and in other boards and forums. They could do good.

>Literally flawless plan
>Nuke everything

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As if it makes a difference if you or someone else is hurting the working class. As if your interests align with the bourgeoisie when you make 4x the cost of living your first year working.
Hit me up in the gulag once you realize that having a bunch of idiots who spent their lives doing family law and social workers who studied "policy" draft your tax laws was fucking stupid lmao

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Why so they can always low down the work pace by constantly getting offended by words I didn't even know were remotely ableist or sexist and my refusal to stop using them because they actually aren't

What do you mean it’s never happened? Have you not been getting your Sorosbux?

mfw Elon is 3 steps ahead of you

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Elon is legitimately a moron. The epitome of Dunning kruger

I legit have no clue what you are trying to say here

no shit

Whoa hol' up.

power corrupts the best

Smart people are everywhere where is enough time for education. Read Ranciere.

This. Only mutual aid networks and other organizations that are formed among people to ensure survival or life that is not utter destitude will have a chance against the yoke of capitalism. Or other form of mass organization.

The correct way to go is to organize co-op enterprises where the workers will have to exploit themselves, but it will be a collective decision to siphon the surplus towards the accumulation of capital. The advantage is that no part of surplus gets siphoned into the lavish consumption of the capitalist. From this view co-ops are more effective at capital accumulation. Also the method of workplace organization might cut down the expenses for paying the management.

Koreans can do just fine on their own even with american guns pointed at them. It is the height of hubris to presume that they are not already maxing out the research that goes into the improvements of the economy. But it is not exactly easy when there are sanctions.

It is also very undecipherable to me but last paragraph seems to be a jab against people who think that their work inside bourgeois state institution can help people. Their work is effectively charity and we all know what charity is. And in fact the non-profit organizations are mostly financed through charitable donations of the capitalist enterprises.

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Not quite the scale of a billionaire, but that was basically Osvaldo Dorticós Torrado‘s role in the Cuban Revolution. He helped organize the economy because of his knowledge of business and educated pedigree. Supposedly even after the revolution he was considered to have a temperament of “superiority” so to speak, or maybe some kind of aristocratic pride.

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the true revolutionary action is for all socialists world wide to become incredibly in debt and all default on the same day, get loans, max out credit cards, get a mortgage and then demolish the house, spend it all on space food
on the same day we all leave our jobs and travel to the alps and eat space food until capitalism has blown over

Plan failed from the beginning.

Completely false. North Koreans are not as stupid as you. They hire foreign professors, scientists and technical advisers all the time. They've been doing it constantly in the last century with trading partners like USSR, China, Vietnam, Syria, Islamic Republic of Iran, and they still do now with some obvious differences (ex. no more USSR/Russia, Eastern bloc, Yugoslavia). They could not have built their nuclear weapons program and ICBMs without ex-Soviet and Iranian scientists. Today more than half of their food and energy supplies come from China. Now that they have nukes they can and should focus on their domestic economic affairs, and preferably take the route of improving self-sustenance capabilities without liberalising or selling out to capitalists.
scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2107075/

It is hardheaded ignorance and imbecilic xenophobia to believe any national-scale system on the planet is anywhere close to perfect and could not benefit from analysis from outside perspectives, whether now in the information age or back in the 20th century. Educate yourself over the fact it was the Soviets under General Shtykov who formed the first "North Korea" and it was the Chinese under Mao who saved North Korea from the U.S. during the Korea war and negotiated with the Soviets to hand over North Korea to Kim Il-sung's Workers' Party of Korea (who was previously a member of the CPC). Not to mention all of these politico-economic theoretical foundations were derived internationally from figures like Marx, Lenin, Dazhao et al.

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He's never heard of /ourbillionaire/

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SHAME

SHAME

SHAME

The only person who ever attempted this and actually ended up succeeding somewhat was Olaf achsberg and that's only because he was big brained Chad who was very Engelian who basically embezzled millions of dollars and sent it to the soviets
He also eventually moved to Russia and became a advisor in GOSPLAN iirc

Is this the same dude that the schizo Zig Forums spammer is always posting about as """proof""" of some conspiracy?

BASED

Yeah. Ismail from /marx/ talked about that guy and another one that Zig Forums always spams
>>>/marx/8762

Marxism is literally built on the idea of classes pursuing thier rational economic self-interest. The bourgeoisie in general have no interest in supporting communism because it would mean a reduction in their material wealth and influence in society. You might find the rare one in history who sees that collapse is inevitable and their position as momentary but this almost never happens as almost no one looks this far ahead in regards to their relation to capitalism.

Who will provide the computers and material though

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Fixing broken link, now it does not 404.
scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2107075/sharp-rise-chinese-food-exports-north-korea-starving

Yes this is a fair criticism I must admit.

I am all for having a good time in Korea doing work that matters. But aside from seeing the beauty of the rivers and mountains of the Three Thousand Ri and actually experiencing socialism, and having some tasty food and helping a little bit the internal R&D in korea. The major benefit might be freedom from the alphabet soup agency infiltrations and sabotage. But would be the difference in having the people in question placed in North Korea or literally anywhere else?

But then again, one could imagine that current socialist countries might boost their economy to efficiency unseen in capitalism and then export the material basis for socialist economy

How would that help those harnessed with the yoke of the capitalism? The economic basis for socialist economy is here already, the existence of socialist countries shows it, it is the system of governance and social relationships that is lagging behind the technology. The major piece of technology that is required is socialist economy calculator, which is just software to be written and hardware to be assembled from existing blocks of hardware.

For example the Open Source Ecology experiment might show various issues when it comes to R&D of the material basis of new economy.
wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page
youtube.com/user/marcinose

But what is proposed in already happens in countless national research institutes, where the people are already given the equipment, but then any actually resulting technology gets published under paywall, but there is sci-hub. And anything to be put in production gets patented, but rogue state does not care about the intellectual property.

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Stop right there. It's literally impossible without exploitation

Big thonk

Better question is it possible for there to be a revolution without class traitors from the ruling class to help fund the movement?

As pointed out the liberal revolutions had plenty of class traitors aid their revolutions. Why does this not happen for socialism?

Silicon Valley?