Eco-Imperialism

are you sure you're not just an eco-fascist?

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Depending on what you mean by eco-fascism (e.g. authoritarian iron fist measures to curb climate disaster and mass death), while it won't come to pass anytime soon due to the nature of things such as they are, it's would be a completely reasonable path to take in our time.

Meh. Sage to liberal global warming hysteria. There are far more greater threats to humanity that we should be worried about.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Eco-fascists want to kill off all the poor people (in their minds, surplus people who parasitically feed on the environment) so that rich people (in their minds, the deserving and noble caretakers of the environment) can continue to sustain their extravagant and wasteful lifestyles. They see statistics about how the world could only support 1.2 billion people at first-world consumption rates, and their final solution is to kill "reduce the population" by 6 billion. There is nothing reasonable about it.

Can you name one significant person who calls for this ? I can't name one. Mostly it's completely reasonable population control and not killing people who already exist

Only teenage boys on Zig Forums advocate for this kind of garbage

Nobody has ever said anything like this. What world are you living in ?

It's even less if we are to assume the current energy model.

Literally made up.

So basically chyna

They're fascists. You can't expect to get anything straight out of them. They couch it all in plausible deniability to pull people in without scaring them away, and so that they don't get shut down for inciting violence or for hate speech.

That's a doswhistle you gormless coxfither.

yeeeees… let the infestation grow like parasites upon the face of the earth to suck it dry. It'll reach a peak, trust me guys, just trust me

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< let the infestation grow like parasites upon the face of the earth to suck it dry.

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You connected it not me, brother

"reasonable population control" is as transparent as "peaceful ethnic cleansing" and when they lead you to the camps you'll deserve it.

population control = ethnic cleansing

You're doing it again. When have I ever advocated for targeting a specific self-proclaimed group of people. Everything I have ever said here is contrary to that.

Okay, so let's imagine the eco-fascists are in power. They believe that the best way to save the environment is to reduce the human population to a more sustainable level, and that everything else is just tinkering around the edges and prolonging the inevitable destruction of the world.

Now, let's imagine that the human population isn't falling fast enough to avert disaster.

What do you think the eco-fasists would do in response? Be honest.

While I prefer to avoid speaking in complete hypotheticals as if I'm in some video game, if you insist that we're talking in lala fairytale land where human beings actually think in rational and far-sighted terms: mandatory parental licensing prohibiting child-bearing for all with hereditary life-limiting conditions, alcoholics/drug addicts, violent criminals, non-cohesive families, etc. etc. with caps on the number of children and with the ultimate aim to grow babies in tubes so human beings can be free from the curse of biological reproduction and population can be planned in much more efficient manners

You should send your idea to the american military industrial complex. Sounds like a brillant way to profit from endless war

our future soon

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woah how weird none of those things have anything to do with the environment, as if this is all just a front to target specific groups of people. isn't that weird? sooo weird. It's like that's what I fucking said or something.

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Population control is a dog whistle. Developed economies , responsible for most pollution and consumption, already have declining populations. When population control comes is spoken of, it means for those people, the populations who do not consume or pollute as much, but are fecund, and whom we dread will one day be consuming as much as us and sucking dry our gigantic gas station.

Cutting population has everything to do with it. The other choice is to control population arbitrarily.

It's curious though that even though I haven't said it, like a strawman crusader it's necessary to deduce something detestable which isn't even there because there's no other way to argue. It's quite literally you = nazi.

Malthusianism isn't a fucking solution. You sound like one of those people who unironically thinks Thanos was right.

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Want to? It's as good as done already. They massacre the indigenous tribes there and cut the forest down to nothing. It's horrifying.

what screencap ? If there's a screencap with me in it, it'd be interesting to see

Bitcoin is cancer for the earth

As the blockchain gets longer, it takes more processing power to produce a Bitcoin. This makes the value of the Bitcoin go up, which creates an incentive for Bitcoin miners thinking they can get the next one, which in turn lengthens the blockchain. As a result of this cycle, you have enormous processing power, which requires real physical electrical production, chasing the blockchain.

Here are posts from Crooked Timber's John Quiggin complaining about the economics of Bitcoin:
crookedtimber.org/2017/12/04/bitcoin-an-even-bigger-waste-of-energy/
crookedtimber.org/2018/02/09/bitcoin-kills-the-efficient-market-hypothesis/

What is needed is global cooperation towards a single goal, Communism. The idea that a genuinely leftist country could be this disgusting, amoral arbiter is a fundamental contradiction. This is disgusting, and you are disgusting.

military pressure is not mass-murder.
Hardly, but the current state of ecological affairs requires drastic measures to halt and reverse the damage we are causing to the planet. The planet will still be here, but it will be barren of many life-forms - including us.
moralisms are bullshit, ethics are not. Read Aristotle you moron.
Yes and everyone is going to do that because everyone is a class-conscious worker or a person able to do something and not have their HEAD CUT OFF for speaking out of turn. Idealists like you are fucking pathetic.

Morality is not have communism works. Dialectical materialism and if you are so bent on it, ETHICS are.
This is called class-war, that is what communism does. It oppresses and eliminates the other classes through force if necessary. Or do you think Porky is going to stop doing what they're doing if you ask nicely? Cuba restored its environment and created good living standards under socialism by violently getting rid of reactionary US lap-dogs who had essentially enslaved the country.
Cry harder

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Its hilarious how anarchists presume the impending climate problem is a foregone conclusion even though climate science is far from accurate, still nascent as a discipline, and absolutely refuse to address other scientific studies that show other potential causes like solar flares, and no not all those studies are done by oil shills.
You're all just genocidal fuck ups spooked by porky propaganda. You ever think that all this climate hysteria might be being used by porky to strip proles of using land in the name of "climate change" and make their reliance on markets absolute?
Dumb ass leftists like you should be persecuted as much as Nazis. Just replace "earth" with " white race" and its all the same hysteria.

Is it being used by them? Sure, they make use of ANYTHING. Doesn't make it false.
We don't have them often enough for that, not to mention that you are still ignoring the fact that Ozone depletion is not caused by solar flares, neither is logging or depletion of animal populations or the rise in Carbon Dioxide levels, the acidity of atmospheric watervapor and the oceans, the melting of the permafrost, and finally the massive plastic dumps that will only degrade after approximately 5000 years and are a bio-hazard chemically and physically to animals.

Except that is has been concluded time and again that CAPITALISM is what is causing said climate and ecological issues.

Nice false equivalency. Go back to >>>pol/ your bait is too transparent.

Stop talking about things you have no understanding of. Take a basic Environmental Science course before pushing such moronic shit, it's the least a brainlet like you, could do.

PS not an anarchist

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Malthusianism is idealistic. It presumes a static nature of things, where the only dependent variable is population.

In my opinion, if a USSR-like(in scale) self sustaining socialist power comes in the current time, capitalism is screwed. With the current technology and industrial development, socialism will be far more competitive relative to capitalism. By dominating the market with cheap socialist products, imperialism will start losing surplus and will be forced to go socialist due to mutually assured destruction.

The idea that climate change is an existential threat humanity and right around the corner, not that climate change is real, it obviously is.
Strawmen and false dichotomy I do recognize all those except the ozone which is on the mend. Solar flares are indicative of a more active sun. They don't have to directly strike earth to cause climate change, regardless there's others, like the possibility that increasing temperatures might be a prelude to a global cooling.
I'm saying global warming could be exaggerated to strip proles of any ability to use land, not that capitalism isn't cause sheesh, read!
Haha, saw your own reflection in the mirror did ya. Yeah there's people advocating for war and genocide in the name of climate change. IDGAF if you're spooked by white supermacy or porky propaganda I'm still going to put a bullet between your eyes if you come after me. I won't even have to, the state and the mass majority of people will have long before.
Okay, show me your degree in climate change. Oh and even climate scientists themselves will put caveats on their conclusions.

Fucking this, and describes half the people in this thread.

Do you even know what the military does?

It's true. You seriously don't understand this shit, do you? A difference of 2 degrees Celcius of average global tempurature is already a massive difference.
Do you know what a strawman is?
No it really isn't
Again it isn't The process of ozone depletion has slowed since Montreal but it has not stopped and will not stop unless more is done.
Yes and we don't have them often enough to determine the significant changes we have seen.
Which is why it is called CLIMATE CHANGE.
No shit sherlock, doesn't mean we shouldn't try and alleviate it either.
What?
Yes, Malthusianists, who want to Thanos the earth. We're not talking about that here.
Ooooh how scary. You're really a piece of work
That doesn't exist m8. Not to mention that degrees aren't the point. I know Harard professors with Ph.Ds who don't know what they're talking about. The point is to know the functions.

Yes, they fight and represent a fighting force/threat.
You're pathetic, with that sort of argument, the Soviets should have never fought in Afghanistan and let the CIA shill Taliban destroy it back in the 1980s, and let the USA trash Cuba with nuclear weapons. Get a fucking grip on reality. see

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Are you porky? Are you helping porky? If not, why would anyone come after you? Ask yourself that you blithering trout.

And you know the temperature will rise that much because?…. And all the bad things predicted will happen because….
Its never happened before, and scientific projects are notorious for being off. I was reading climate change projects in the 90s that projected we'd all be dead right fucking now!
But whoops! They didn't know the ocean was acting as a carbon sponge. The climate system is complicated as fuck and we probably don't even know half the variables. You can't even get an accurate weather prediction for a week much less project out decades in advances.
Questioning the veracity of the apocalyptic claims isn't the same as being a bourgeois climate denier.
Also you forget that there's been other environmental disasters that have successfully evaded lie DDT driving all birds to extinction and activists successfully stopping with the release of "Silent Spring".
All this fucking climate hysteria is in the porky mainstream media, that alone makes it suspect. And the hole in the ozone is closed.

Sounds like a gay sci fi novel.
You should've been bullied more as a kid you silver spoon private school baby.

All your disastrous predictions are predicated on the temperature RISING ya dipshit

Climate Change and the Destruction of the Natural World is Progressive. Reforestation is reactionary.

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Yes, but that doesn't mean the problem is going away, the oceans are becoming massively more acidic. And the temperature has risen enough to allow permafrost to melt, release massive pockets of methane, which, unlike CO2 does not get as easily trapped in the Ocean and also creates a greenhouse effect.
DDT was only ONE pesticide, the others are simply less harmful, not unharmful. Bird populations are STILL declining massively because of environmental factors.

No, not essentially.
Sure you can, just not from burger news-casters
strawman, there are no APOCALYTPIC claims, only that HUMANITY will suffer from the environmental disaster we are creating. Seeking to change that is not a bad thing nor does it mean that it is Porky. You sound like a Zig Forumsyp looking for a conspiracy behind every lamp-post.

Frankly I don't see why you are even posting if you agree with the fact that climate change exists. What is the issue with dealing with it? No-one is proposing malthusianist practices, pay attention to the thread.

Also Porky is the one behind the whole "Climate denial" movement which you are feeding into with your semantic bull.

No, its not, it's not a static occurrence.

Sure.

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Biological life is reactionary and racist.
Only through the transformation of all people into an AI can reactionary concepts be destroyed.

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This but unironically. Biological life itself is survival of the fittest which is automatically, inherently reactionary and fascist. Only when everyone is immortal AI can the principles of the Enlightenment be fulfilled.

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Agree, we need a strong Eco-Stalinist country that forces humanity to save itself.

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