Food Stamps and the Shutdown

The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program in the USA is only funded through the end of January. 40 million people receive benefits every month that help them to afford food. If the shutdown doesn't end, there could be (much more) starvation in one of the wealthiest countries in the world at a time when there are substantial agricultural surpluses.

This is getting some mainstream press coverage.
nbcnews.com/news/us-news/prolonged-shutdown-could-leave-millions-without-food-stamps-hit-small-n955136
washingtonpost.com/business/economy/millions-face-delayed-tax-refunds-cuts-to-food-aid-as-white-house-scrambles-to-deal-with-shutdown/2019/01/04/b5b58616-0fa3-11e9-8938-5898adc28fa2_story.html

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I'm sorry if this sounds like something from r/socialism or doesn't deserve its own thread, but I think it is necessary to impress upon everyone the importance of trying to save up a bit this month in case worst comes to worst and someone needs your help.

lmao. burgers are literally going to starve themselves to death avoiding socialism and the the ebil holodomor.

EAT THE RICH

how high is the chance of a large climb in death rates due to malnutrition affecting the immune systems of people who can't/won't get vaccinated

If they run out of burgers, what will be call Americans?

In all likelihood there would be a fall in death rates due to weight loss in the beginning. It'll take many months for Americans to burn through their blubber, and by then the government will be reopen.

Most deaths from starvation come from micronutrient and protein deficiencies, not sheer lack of calories. You can be obese and starve to death.

Burger food is mostly empty calories. A lot of us already are starving while being obese.

And that's how American accelerationism finally reached communism!

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Ehh it's mostly CiShits and Breeders on welfare anyway so who cares tbh

Nice to have you drop by, Zig Forums. If it makes any difference to you, 40% of food stamp recipients are non-hispanic whites.

So?
Their still men and thus need to be purged from all heiracharal positions they hold in the revolution

Fuck off, Zig Forums
Isn't it time for you to renew your BLACKED subscription? Reminder you are not white and you never will be.

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BACK TO >>>Zig Forums YOU GO!

Yeah but seriously don't ban me I'm just pretending to be retarded

good hopefully this triggers the Nazi masturbation fantasy

time to take the trash out

Good, none of you mongrels will make it out alive

So theoretically let's say you could predict incoming famine and economic crisis in America. Just hypothetically. WTF does an individual leftist do once shit hits the fan? And I think we'll recognize that moment when it comes.

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Organize, get your family and group up with some comrades. Being an individual leftist will probs get you killed

continue gardening and hunting with gf. hopefully move into her grandparent's old place and start a proper farm in the wilderness. slowly build agricultural commune.

Desding :D

Seems like a good venue for praxis, t b h

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good i hope the bums starve

Maybe they'll shut the fuck up about bread queues now

Nope! They'll blame BLUMPF and crypto-Bolshevik Russian interference for ruining capitalism.

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/198899556

pretty predictable pol responses

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can these autists go one discussion without losing their shit about jews for whatever retarded reason.

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It's either jooz in power or the nigs at the bottom at fault, with the eternal victim (whites) in the middle.

fascism in a nutshell

this is a natural response to cancerous elements of society(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

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so much for nationalist right

even marx agreed
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat

ah yes, the worker isn't poor, right…
retard.

btw the term describes you, brainlet

yep, fascism in a nutshell

you clearly don't understand Marx

and no, it describes the lumpenproletariat on snap

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If there was still any doubt about the nationalist right being unapolegetic class traitors…

a fascist talking about understanding Marx, that's rich

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Brainlet

except that's objectively false, SNAP has work requirements and most recipients work. there have been scandals recently when it was discovered that Amazon and Walmart have record numbers of employees on food stamps.
so cute when Zig Forums tries to use marxist rhetoric but doesn't understand marx and ends up outing themselves as petit-bourg scions completely out of touch with economic reality

Marx describes the lumpenproletariat as:
lowest stratum of the industrial working class
tramps
criminals
people who are disinclined to participate in revolutionary activities
people that act as bribed tools of the reactionary intrigue

welfare recipients are being bribed by the capitalist class to not revolt

welfare recipients are being bribed by the capitalist class to not revolt

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get fucked. I and many other lumpens would revolt in a heartbeat if there was an organised rising

If your boss gives you a paycheck each week, that's an incentive to not revolt by that logic. Doesnt mean your quality of life improves.
The tsar had bread lines, but people still figured out was up

that is literally the opposite of what marx described as a lumpen

"having your labor stolen from you is an incentive to not revolt"
says no one ever unless its really high like a doctor or something.

revolution would have happened sooner if he didn't

someone screen cap this post as a reminder of what these people really feel when it comes to white people

this is just wrong and I'm a ML

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And it's still stolen from you regardless what bread crumbs the state provides.
Defeated your own point

No it wouldn't have because they would all be dead

that is literally the opposite of what marx described as a lumpen

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if you don't work and still receive benefits its not stolen from you, just just a leach at the expense of the working class.

they would have revolted when they ran out of bread.
like what actually happened

Fascist don't love white people to begin with.
It's an idealist borg fantasy version

its not moving the goal post at all you were just wrong.

see marx on the lumpenproletariat

Fascists do.

But a lot of people on the left call anything they don't like fascist so I can see your confusion comrad

Marx described the lumpen as the jobless, homeless, thieves, beggars and underclasses. don't bend the definition and cross your fingers that you won't get called on your shit

Marx describes the lumpenproletariat as:

lowest stratum of the industrial working class

tramps

criminals

people who are disinclined to participate in revolutionary activities

people that act as bribed tools of the reactionary intrigue

welfare recipients are being bribed by the capitalist class to not revolt

Also I'm not talking about the amazon workers who receive benefits. They'd actually be able to feed themselves if foodstamps ended

no, fascist love an idealized, romanticized version of their people from an era that never existed, combined with an utter hatred of their actual people, especially poor proles

no fascists love the whole history of their people

No, fascists love the image of white people they have in their heads.

They don't love white gay people, or white people with disabilities, or white drug users, or white race mixers, or white foreigners, or white liberals, or white leftists. They love the idea of white people, not white people as they really are. In reality, they probably can't claim to love even half of all white people.

*Amazon and Walmart workers
have fun losing your 2 day shipping on the next Nintendo console you NEET.
and yes retail workers literally do live on welfare in his country. I’m not exaggerating.

the most important thing about the lumpenproletariat is being divorced from the MoP. owning no property but not regularly selling their labor either. a minority of welfare recipients are moochers, hustlers and drifters but the majority of them work full jobs
if being bribed by the government alone made you a lumpenprole then pretty much everyone in developed countries would be one, as almost everyone receives some sort of government benefits or tax cuts and so on. often without asking for them


yeah, they love the history of their people, but have nothing but visceral hatred for their working class countrymen in the now. as has been proven again and again

lol

why would they love traitors?

Yeah, we shouldn't misuse words, but it's a lot easier to say "fascist" than it is to say "disgustingly spooked class traitor lumpen".

Traitors to what? Your ideal version of the world?

no they love the working class too they also hate the lumpen

the majority of their race

except this country is so backwards and unequal that there are working class full time people who literally need stamps to live

But most white people hate fascists lmao. You're only a majority on gay imageboards where you constantly circlejerk over male physique

lol

Gamergaten is literally all lumpen intel NEETs

if food stamps were removed prices would adjust. the only people that need to to live are the people who don't work

most white people also hate communists lamo

But that's the thing. MOST white people are race traitors. So you can't say they love white people when literally the majority of the race they supposedly love is traitorous.

They just love fascists.

lol

source?

STRAIGHT TO THE >>>/gulag/ FOR YOU
see ya wouldn't want to be ya

sadly I wouldn't be surprised if this is the legitimate outcome

Anyone who isn't a fascist is a race traitor by default, and most people aren't fascists.

The working class is also on foodstamps, though.
Are they leeching off of themselves?
Big thnk.


The later food shortage depended what part of Russia you were in, first of all Second, there were issues not only with the supply of grain itself due to monopoly, but distribution issues that were symbolic of the break down of the government as a whole. Technically bread lines still existed, they just weren't efficient. Russia had undergone a famine in 1891, but didn't seize power then despite it being handle horribly. More things have to be in place than just hunger to guarantee a revolution.

wrong

They are the lumpen

Checkem

yes, thats possible.

no u

So why does it matter, exactly?
Also, as capitalism comes with guaranteed unemployment to maintain an army of reserve labor, at any point proles can become a member of the precariat. Unemployment doesn't guarantee a lumpen mindset.

Initially I said that wanting to remove cancerous elements of society(lumpenproletariat) is a natural response


I completely agree. I was not speaking of everyone on foodstamps nor was I talking about all the unemployed

I suppose I should make a distinction between fascists.

There are stupid American fascists who are nauseatingly optimistic about the white race. In the mind of these fascists, most white people are innocent Folk who just need to be red pilled and saved from Jewish tricks that have enslaved their minds. If they could just shut down the MSM and get them off of fluoride and show them the right CIA crime graphs, surely they'd be freed from Jewish mind control. These people are insane, but you can argue they do love white people in a sort of delusional way.

Then there are European fascists who are highly negative about the average white person. They don't believe that whites can just take the red pill and be freed. They believe that whites have become degenerated, and that the only hope is to purge society of all race traitors who refuse to bend the knee: marxists, race mixers, feminists, gays, liberal arts majors, people who watch anime, ect. They also have a very specific white haplogroup in their minds, often excluding Slavs and Mediterraneans and Catholics and Irish ect. I would say that these fascists hate most white people, and only love an imagined white person that exists in their minds.

Sure what you call the European fascists take an Evolian look at the white race where as Americans take a Hitlerite view

Are you this person then?

Because I doubt you'll find anyone here who thinks poor people are cancer.
As for the lumpen, I'm not completely convinced they are beyond all hope. They might actually be able to be rehabilitated through re-education. I remember reading the black panthers would often try to do outreach to groups that were commonly classified as lumpen, and had some success.
Right now, they're just in the way, of course.

and? appeal to masses is a fallacy

It's not an appeal to masses.
I'm saying that the two aren't equivalent as far as most people here are concerned.

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The majority of the unemployed in western nations that receive SNAP and other equivalent benefits are not Lumpen in the traditional sense of the word, the majority of them are workers, underemployed, unemployed, sick, disabled or otherwise unable to find employment (an ex-convict will struggle to find gainful employment but unless they continue to commit crimes they are not Lumpen in the way which some of you would suggest). A reserve army of labour is neccessitated under capitalism and there is direct policy which exists to manage such. The majority of new employment that is created in places like the UK & US are part-time, self-employed, or even things like zero-hours contracts and even many of the full-time jobs created are paid so far below subsistence levels that they also require government assitance which is a direct form of welfare to the Capitalist class, who are the real welfare queens. Ignore this Fascist retard who doesn't understand anything and stop ceding the grounds of debate to them.

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