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Incels and feminism
Hunter Cox
Cooper Kelly
fake news
Asher Howard
As someone who once fell under that category but managed to escape it I don’t think the problem is as simple as explaining to them how patriarchy excacerbates a lot of the problems they are experiencing, bear in mind that to a lot of them feminism is seen as this cospiracy against men and the root of all their problems. What allowed me to escape that mindset was going to therapy, making progress on my self image and personality and making some friends. I think by and large these people suffer from deep seated psychological issues and in less they themselves make the effort to go get help trying to point out the flaws in their line of thinking is a practice in futility.
Jayden Brown
As a former "incel-lite" (I had all the mannerisms of an incel and was active in incel communities, but never was explicitly misogynist), I can confidently say that the incel mentality is born out of severe sexual frustration that results from a misunderstanding or naivete about sexual relations between men and women.
Dudes that haven't had many "girl friends" in their lives enter the dating scene thinking that they are attractive enough to land a partner and all they have to do is be nice, funny, interesting, etc. When they repeatedly fail humiliatingly, they can go in one of three directions;
1) Read the "FAQs" and treat dating like a game or logical problem (PUAs and the like)
2) Blame their failure on women and society, and become incels
3) If they aren't abnormally obsessed with getting their bar slimed, move on and mature
Which path they take obviously depends on pre-existing personality traits.
I took the incel road after failing repeatedly with dating, but I eventually got out and became a normal human being by putting dating to the side and getting better friends and intellectual pursuits (not a conscious decision btw).
Blaming the problems of the incel on the patriarchy just seems like "left-incelism" to me. What you are essentially doing by that is conceding the core tenants of the mindset, i.e., sexual hierarchy and "you are undesirable", but just shifting the blame towards a new target.
The incel mindset is a spiral that is hard to break people out of, but if we are going to try to redpill them our best bet is to reveal to them the truth about dating, which is
- Most of dating is repeated humiliating failure in hope of success, and this is true in one way or another for everyone, no matter how conventionally attractive they are
- Whether or not a particular person is attracted to you depends on an incredibly complex network of previous experiences in that person's life, and you can never hope to understand that nor reliably make yourself attractive to them
- You will need basic social skills and respect for women before you can hope to succeed
- It may seem bleak and torturous, and it is, but you will get there eventually
Dylan Murphy
why do incels need to be babied so much?
Grayson Nguyen
All I can say is that I don't appreciate being accused of having a "shitty personality". Maybe I'm a bit boring i dunno. But my personality is not shitty. At least not shitty enough to be a permanent incel. I make male friends very easily among other men in my age group and older menopausal women.
Feminists hate us because we tell the truth about female attraction and because we are inherently destabilizing to the status quo.
Jason Barnes
I hate to break it to you but you're still an incel, even if you don't identify as such.
Brandon Cruz
Back when I was a kid there was option
4) Blame your failures on yourself and become depressed.
What fascinates me is how late capitalism created this all-permeating victimhood status and corrupted in this generation with it.
Where's good old self-deprecation? Where's the sense of guilt? Wallowing? None of this is available, because everything must have an immediate answer or an applicable solution: either go "FAQ mode" and treat people as a means to an end, or have an epiphany about how the evil patriarchy/matriarchy is against you.
Charles Flores
Their problem is that they can't get laid and that is actually the result of patriarchy weakening and men losing part of their sexual access to women. Women's lot has been greatly improved, but obviously their are some "losers" - men who have lost the privileges they had under patriarchy and can't appeal to more educated and independent women. It is wrong and the result of oppressive forces that society holds virgins like in contempt, but incels tend to want to "solve" their "problem" with some form of sexual slavery which makes them very unsympathetic.
Elijah Lewis
Attractive males have people approach them.
Literally just be good looking and have some social status
Kek, if this were true then there wouldn't be so many fatherless kids running around.
Doubtful after 25.