Encounters with lolberts and other creatures of the night

Anyone had any similar encounters with libertarians, Zig Forumslacks or just plain liberals?

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Saw two teenagers talking about how they want to kill and rape libtards a week ago. I also saw some guy go on a stage at an anti-trump rally and do the nazi salute while screaming "HAIL TRUMP" several times before he was kicked out

hello baboonettes

More or less every week I have drunk arguments with a great friend of mine over lots of shit, sadly he bought into Peterson's garbage when he was down and is sticking to it like crazy, while also sucking up all that American anti-communist propaganda.
Eh, honestly he doesn't really buy into it anymore since he sees why and how propaganda can be easily spread and how autistic it is to believe those sources.
Right now he believes that the only way socialism can happen is with full automation.

Forgot to add to this, if baboon poster can find love, anyone can, don't give up your dreams user.
Good on you boonposter, legit happy for you

idk what sort of libertarian's "idealization of capitalism is somewhat shaken" by shady business practices in the 19th century.

But he's right on the microwave thing. Even Marx said people live better now than in the past idk how this is even debatable

"living better now" is true in the grand landscape of history but I honestly think little has changed in terms of quality of life in the United States over the past 30 years. in fact it's probably gotten worse, hence the increased mass shootings.

The growth in standard of living due to Capitalism does not mean that poor people don't exist. Sure, you may be less "poor" than some medieval peasant, but you still have to slave away for most of your life just to end up where you started. Marx also talked about this, that our wealth is always relative, and that as our standard of living increases, so too does inequality.

Looks like a Maoist Third Worldist to me.

Standard of living. HDI for example has increased.
Now what you value as livability is totally subjective.

Sure you could say that the increase in technology has led to the break down of social cohesion. But over all technology has made our lives easier. If you think that isn't a good thing thats your opinion

Are you assuming that libertarian types think we're living in a uptopia because things are better than in the past?
I'm confused about your statement, you agree that we are living better today than 500 years ago, that was all that was stated.

Having some material possessions that are essential to a certain time period (just try going about without a phone) doesn't mean you aren't poor. Take for example working class Brits in the 19th century: they had gas lighting, clothes etc, but they would still be in a far less favorable position than some savage living in his village before colonization. If today you have to work several jobs and still can barely get by, having a fucking cheap microwave or a fridge - something essential - doesn't mean you're by any means rich.

The same principle is why anthropologists say our state only worsened after discovering agriculture, when we supposedly became wealthier.

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ok bud

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In the OP that was not all that guy said. He specifically said
Which is false. While your material wealth is greater, your social standing is actually worse due to increased inequality. You still have to work every day just to get by, just like everyone before you (and arguably we work even more hours than they did 500 years ago), and meanwhile the very richest individuals have a level of wealth that rivals that of entire countries.

That person making minimum wage lives better than most people in the 19th century

The people in the 19th century Britain lived better than the 9th century britain

capitalism still exists and all the problems with it however things are better now than in the past

no one is poor in the first world because their wages are artificially higher because of the exploitation of the third world

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Repeating yourself does not constitute an argument.

Now this is a hot take. Wouldn't you describe working 2-3 jobs a day to break even and not being able to afford healthcare or education without entering an impossible debt spiral as being poor?

That person making minimum wage lives better than most people in the 19th century

The people in the 19th century Britain lived better than the 9th century britain

capitalism still exists and all the problems with it however things are better now than in the past

having the balance of brain chemicals that psychologically constitute general happiness.
it literally hasn't though, people younger than me have a whole new set of problems to deal with from social media being forced on them, such as maintaining both privacy and impression management.

More encounters with lolberts and creates of the night ITT plz

Well, I don't have any interesting stories, though I was flipped channels during my folks' holiday party in a room with my Trumpy chud uncle and my 15-year-old cousin. We were chilling in there away from the main party. Anyways my uncle thought it was interesting as I explained internal Central Committee politics in the 50s. Then my cousin said "some of my friends say 'gulag' at school all the time, like 'you're going to the gulag' and so on."

irrelevant. only about 4% of the US works more than 1 job and thats decreasing

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5% is not "irrelevant", that's still millions of people, and it doesn't even include people who don't even have jobs, or the people who only work one part-time job. Over 38 million people live on food stamps, that's 38 million who can't even afford food.

Preach brother. I hate when people say dumb shit like most Americans have at least 1 car in the their driveway so a hurr durr they cant be poor. Fine, but they need that car since America is as big as it is. And with that car comes repair cost, loans, insurance, and gas as well.

yes, and people lived better in the 9th century than in 800 BC.
"Feudalism still exists and all the problems with it however things are better now than in the past"

You are completely missing the point. What the lolbert in the OP said was that "there aren't poor people," you said things are getting better - which no one is denying, that's usually the course of history thanks to technological advancements - but implied there aren't poor people because they have material possessions XYZ, which isn't the same thing. Living better than in the 19th century doesn't mean you necessarily live good.

You are arguing over your own misunderstanding and really have no point in your argument.


Anyway, you'll find the poor - the subject of this argument which apparently you lost track of lol - to compose somewhat more than just those with two jobs.