White supremacist
Crys about lose of culture
Hates the invaders
All im saying is were winning! lets keep going its almost 6am im tired i could have put more effort I will in response!!!
Btw if i can have someone drop the Zig Forums brainlet group pic i lost it and cant find it again (even thou i saw it a week ago)
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For all their talk of fun, tbh, most of these guys are unironically the most degenerate in the original sense of refusing to work, being NEET or w/e.
Wtf are you talking about?
Thats the point they are what the hate! There not self aware enough to know the economic system they support made this!
All im saying is were winning←- This is self explanatory but I'll go in more. its pretty obvious to be the left is winning the rhetoric battle once the madness of 2020 crash you can bet the streets will have commies 10 to fash 1!!!
As for the rest ive seen anons shit on "low effort post" and i was trying to address that
NOOOOOOO this is a Jewish lie he was a pure Aryan Nord and also I am Vargist-Paganist so checkmate commie
What about capitalism with a pale face where the government does stuff? Did that factor into your criticism?
Actually we're anti imperialist, it's awful to go and invade people's countries like that. That's why I want to keep the brown invaders out of countries which are and always have been white countries, such as Australia and the United States!
Alright anons lets play was user being real or is he shit posting! tell me your feels down below!
What about capitalism with a pale face where the government does stuff? Did that factor into your criticism?
Please elaborate!
Also Zig Forums fags cheer on imperialism every day i understand there is a subsect of the righg that actually trys to be anti imperialist but most on Zig Forums cheer on colonialism and the likes
Everyone and his dog knows leftists are cocksuckers so they engage in gay activities.
I'm just gonna save you the trouble and tell you I was shitposting. You know the Christchurch shooter more or less says this in his manifesto btw?
Where does he say that? Working on some propaganda, would like to know!
Your good!
I'm a pagan LMAO
No migration crisises in communism
Thats a capitalist problem
Guys lets make Zig Forums threads i wanted this to be a invasion call lets do it
You can ctrl+f to find the quotes in the pics here:
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Now in pics related you can see how he tries to present this as if simultaneously there are no innocents, including no child innocents, in an "invasion".
And also as if the Western countries (whites) are under attack, and that he just wants the races/cultures to basically leave each other alone (implied in the jew/israel pic), but he sees a white child killed as an atrocity while a Muslim child being killed is just the cost of a culture war.
Also says anyone who's a settler in a colony shares guilt, but doesn't seem to think this applies to the colony of Australia he is from.
He is being dishonest, he doesn't want us to leave each other alone, he sees this as a global competition basically but does not present it that way. This is a mindset you will find in many Zig Forums users I think.
I was going for the part where he says
I can't find it
It's not an actual quote, and he doesn't say it all in one place. It's just the sort of narrative he was altogether putting forward.
The little picture at the top of the manifesto does explicitly imply he considered himself "anti imperialist" though if that helps.
Are you ok OP?
They are fundamentally hypocritical its all they know they couldn't make a substantial claim if there life depended on it
Other then crushing loneliness and having a childhood of constant neurotoxin exposure im a white trash trailer ill say im doing good how bout you comrade?
is this what you were asking for in the OP btw?
Its not its all red on the background has Zig Forums at the top and a a group of brainlets/autist
If you think a place thats bulit on white identity politics and AHISTORICAL notions put brains on folk that says alot about you!
I think a great deal of Zig Forumsyps are beyond saving. We are talking about people who want to murder Jews because of a Frankfurt school conspiracy. Funnily enough they also deny holocaust while at the same time try their best to put the faults of bourgeoisie, Jewish or not, on the Jews.
I'm not seeing the issue here.
By his standards both sides could be categorized both as invaded and invader.
pretty cringe whataboutism
yeah, no shit. you think we like capitalism? are you sure you're talking about fash, NutSac, and nazbol or are you just talking about trump supporters and civnats who gag on Israel's cock?
what the fuck are you talking about?
you're literal nonentities. our opponents are neolibs and the globohomo. socialism is not a threat politically and in a lot of ways is an ally. cultural and ethnic nationalism is not a left right thing you fucking retard. across the developed world the far left is pretty much nonexistent, the left is corporate and masochistic which turns people off and the right and far right are ascendant. you'd have to live under a fucking rock to think otherwise. unless fucking joe biden is secretly a socialist or something. pretty sure you're a democrat who larps as a socialist which is why you're confused about who the actual players are.
Your other critiques are correct, though implying communism will preserve culture and nation states is someone everyone can clearly see through.
The standard is "we took this and we should keep it". Expecting a universal standard for the battle of peoples throughout history is idealistic tripe.
Then present it as a battle of peoples if that's what you believe in, not as if you just want to be left alone. Tarrant wanted to present it as both.
This, if any of you are actually ideological communists then you are a tiny minority of the people that make up the left. You have no power whatsoever.
oh boy
You people are just brainless. Every Zig Forumsyp deserves the wall.
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Why are you in this thread if we're so irrelevant then? Extending an olive branch? Just bored? I don't really get it.
There is no democratic solution to the problem of immigration. The "neoliberals" want consumers and the death of nations and people, because markets make them more money and give them more control. A want that communists share with "neoliberals".
That was the point of my critisim in the first place!
Why should someone care about race yes!!! I was merely pointing out its ironic to see whites as the best. Yet gods choose son is brown, thats what I was getting at!
8:12 eastern and ive started a shitstorm todays looking good comrades
here's the write-up I did the day of.
I don't think you really grasp accelerationism.
it was to establish a tit for tat that would cause a war and force people to pick a side, which it did. literally a couple days later a turk shot up a train station in the netherlands which was covered up by the media as being "some personal family issue" even though there were multiple reports of a letter found in the getaway car claiming revenge for christchurch. then the next day? the far right party exploded in the polls and took a huge victory in the election. it was literally textbook.
Christchurch was a resounding victory and continues to echo. the only misfortune is that the Sri Lankan bombings didn't happen in Europe.
Tell me this, retard. Why is there immigration?
All of the far-right political figures are completely in the pockets of global capital (Trump, Bolsonaro etc.)
So by your own logic we're both completely irrelevant.
I want to understand socialism and marxism more. I generally like the quality of the conversation here.
I was permabanned from 4/pol/ and range-bans are hard to circumvent with the popular vpns.
wanted to take a crack at deradicalizing a little bit and getting some fresh air.
true, it hurts lads. plus the far rights complete ignorance of class struggle and infection of neocons is insufferable. hold me
A combination of the two. I don't see why two powerless sides should be fighting each other when the third side with actual power is the only one that benefits from it.
History is different people competing for resources and land, other things too but these are more obvious. People of different ethnic groups within races fight each other, people of different races fight each other. If you don't care about race then you are leave your back exposed to an enemy.
To push an economic goal which gives the youknowwhos more control over their enemies and all other people.
Didn't Australia participate in the invasion of Iraq along with many other nations of white Christian majority? Does that justify Muslims counter "invading" Aus to you?
You say that the character of the overall left isn't much influenced by the communist left because we're such a small minority, but why do you on the other hand seem to think that the general white Christian population's character is influenced by your small minority of fascists of a particular strain who say they just want to be left alone when the general population is by your standards complicit if not supportive of invasion and destruction of Muslims majority nations?
Can sympathize, I'm tempbanned from 4/pol/ and go there on occasion, to try and understand ideologies different from my own beliefs. Kind of weird how it's a better place to go than 8/pol/ for that. I think it must be because it's too large and fast for the 4chan mods to ban people they don't like often enough, while Zig Forums board mods don't have to deal with as much activity.
HA, look at this nigger. If that were true then half of Aus wouldn't be owned by Chinese and the country would be 95% anglo.
I unironically wish there was a bigger leftwing presence on 4/pol/. I feel like if there was a concerted effort to "take over" between a group of left wing subs and the leftpols the board would be vastly improved.
these days it just feels like /r/the_donald on crack
Are your white christians revolting against their government's wishes as Tarrant viewed himself as doing? Or are they a mix of politically inactive and comfortably supporting the various establishment parties in their respective countries?
Explain how such a thing is even possible? And is that implicit support for the second amendment?
Honestly people who say shit like races fight each other is what history is about are stupid. Few centuries ago the concept of race as we know it didn't even exist. If you asked a peasants what nation they are they couldn't anwser you. IThose are modern inventions. I also get a feeling people like you actually never even talked to people of different ethnicities if you tell yourself that. I've talked to people from all over the word and can confirm neither of us wanted to kill each other.
This is why Nazbol is a completely meme tier ideology.
My Zig Forums thread
Tarrant seems to think becoming a mass shooter was a pretty good way of doing it.
But really, you have to be politically active at all in the first place to formulate a reaction or solution to a political problem, and I don't think most people are. Sports and other bread & circuses seem more popular.
I dunno if you were looking to catch me on the gun issue, but I would estimate most leftist posters on this board are pro gun ownership. I certainly am.
Can i post my ignorance on you guus fear of screenshots got me bannes
Ok it was just my other thread
If whites saw Africans as not different, or even human, we would never have enslaved them tbh. Perhaps the concept didn't exist, but to claim no one saw a difference is outright dishonesty. Before decades of equality indoctrination in schools people reacted violently to non white immigration to Europe. People in non white countries react violently to it now. Their response is the natural one.
I agree with you on the apathy of most people to these issues, many are too comfortable. Perhaps tarrent believed that he'd wake some people up with his actions but I haven't seen it. Economic collapse is required, I don't really care if its socialism or not as long as I don't have to worry about my kids getting raped if they play outside, the majority of which is done by non white immigrants.
society DOES divide on racial and cultural lines, this isn't something anyone needs to enforce.
you think the world is an even mix of different cultures and ethnicities? people form communities based on shared experience and identity.
"othering" wasn't invented in the last 500 years brainlet. people see other people who look and act differently and tend to prefer being around people with shared views and experiences, especially when those others are trying to enforce their beliefs on the peasants, whether white or nonwhite. this is why colonialism failed. it wasn't just the intense exploitation. even if the european powers had done nothing but help in Africa you would have racial tensions and a trend towards anti-colonialism and ethnic/cultural solidarity.
Or their children/grandchildren. Most of it infact.
I think we'll have global economic crisis pretty soon whether we like it or not.
I wouldn't be so optimistic as to say it'll destroy capitalism. It's proven to be a pretty resilient system. Times of economic crisis also seem to provide a window where it's more vulnerable though.
The system's resilience is part of why I don't really care about the Jew thing. People in charge of the global capitalist system are themselves just cogs in the machine to me who can be replaced, they act just as much as a cog who can be replaced as people at the bottom. They serve a purpose to the system, and can be replaced with someone who furthers the system's natural aims better if they wander too far from that.
I think its pretty funny that when reactionaries have to justify themselves they always fall back on the naturalistic fallacy
Never said it was. Is there some natural aversion to people from different cultures and backgrounds? Sure but research shows that aversion can be overcome. The historical record is one filled with culture fusion and miscegenation. Ethically pure ethnostates are a product of the 20th century. Far from natural or normal.
People are different. You don't need to travel a whole continent to see that. I'm different than anyone in my family. The thing is it's dumb to put those "niggers" you despise under one race. You are talking about a whole continent here. The stereotype of a savage man was even used for europeans. We all know how a roman saw your precious aryan "ubermensch". I mean the fuck, people in europe couldn't wait to cut their heads off for most of history and you are telling me they now are in the white race who suprisingly can co-exist?.
Fucking Netherlands in the 50s/60s picked Turks up for cheap labor like hot bread.
Well yeah, If you bring people in mass from different culture and make the average person pay for it they will get angry. But instead of actually going for the problem that's causing it, idiots like you just want kill some innocent people who trully don't give a shit about your imaginary Nazi masturbation fantasy. They also serve as a nice scapegoat since you can blame all the problems of the world on it without ever changing the thing that's causing it.
I don't really want to destroy capitalism, as in trade goods and services and making a profit, other than that, sure. I agree with you about them simply being cogs in the system too. The same thing with politicians and media exes. My worst fear is that the system is powerful enough to always have people willing to become the cogs, that you could remove 100% of the people in those positions and they'd be replaced by people willingly.
You would if you don't think anything is natural.
Pretty sure I broke this down into groups within groups in another post somewhere. But I'm not a white supremacist or a pan European collectivist or whatever you'd call that. I use the term white because people know what I'm referring to when I say white.
I'm sure the government did do that, yeah. I don't know about the Dutch but in the UK we had all sorts outright attacking indians, pakis and blacks simply for being here. That had to be indoctrinated out of people and we still have the urge to get them out of our homelands, its suppressed by media, economics and indoctrination masquerading as education.
Glad we agree
I don't want to kill anyone, I want them to go away
Which, if I'm not mistaken, both Zig Forums and Zig Forums see as the same enemy if for different reasons, to answer you next point
I'm fully aware they're merely tools of the system, though nobody makes a paki gang raped a 11 year old. Still, how do we go about changing the system?
My eggs are in the economic collapse basket at present, but if you have something more proactive then please share.
I would argue that they only became an objective as technology of transportation changed. people didn't really need to talk about racial demographics in the past because there wasn't a lot of transcontinental mobility of large groups of people. the costal cities with trade and all that? sure. but even there other cultures and ethnicities would be vanishing minorities, and even more so in the interior of a country. now with air travel, EVERY city is international, not just the coasts. travel isn't some peril where you could catch a bad wind and be off course for months and run out of food, or die in a storm.
and so it is natural and normal. if you had an influx of even just 100,000 africans into medieval europe they would be seen as invaders. Europe's racial demographics were like 95% european as recently as a hundred years ago. You're telling me that they were le 56% melting pot in the middle ages?
And research shows that you can cut a part of the brain out and make people not care about anything, but we shouldn't do that either.
For you it would be becoming a nazbol.
Many leftists arguments on this basically boil down to saying this trading and small-time profit sounds good in theory but in practice leads to the parts you don't like as wealth accumulates and the system of profits becomes more widespread, centralized, and inter-connected.
My Zig Forums thread gone looks like Zig Forums is scared to talk!
what was it?
I think plenty of things are natural. I just don't think all natural things are good. I don't justify my arguments with "it's natural dood" because that's stupid as hell.
It wasn't a racial melting pot but it certainly was a cultural and ethnic melting pot. The main reason it wasn't a "racial" melting pot is exactly as you state, lack of efficient transportation between continents where the different races resided. Not because Europeans saw black or Asian people as so fundamentally different that they couldn't never live side by side. Medieval Europeans were more concerned with how other Europeans were fundamentally different and couldn't live with each other. Yet modern Europe and North America prove that different European ethnicities can live together. Why is it so different for African or Asian ethnicities? Why are they so different? Does difference in skin color really make cooperation impossible?
I'm just saying there's evidence to support my argument. Because otherwise you're going to say changing human nature is impossible or something.
because there's a greater difference between an African and European than there is between a European and a European. Historically, culturally, religiously, you name it.
is this really that hard to understand?
Posted it earlier in the thread
So my post was 404 and the replaced it with this
So sad Zig Forums im glad im on /adultpol/
What do leftists fight for? What do they expect will happen? One giant multicultural army against the evil white man?
Have they considered that they too will be beheaded once the ethnocentric white core is gone?
I can't imagine the left having a solid basis to fight from. What's there to fight for? Genuinely curious.
But what difference is actually important here? It's all fine a good to say they're "more different" but what differences actually make cooperation and peaceful co-existence in the same area impossible? Because differences in culture, religion, genetics and language have all been overcome to create the modern concept of European. What exactly makes people from different races so different that those same differences are impossible to bridge? Because I don't see it.
gang gang gang
government regulation it is then
Hello, commie fren!
Humans are malleable, true. Can you not accept that many countries wish to remain native their own people and leave it alone?
He understands it, he just wants to change it because he hasn't yet let go of the egalitarian liberal priors he was raised with. Even if it could be changed there is no reason to change it. Let the Africans be African and the Europeans be European.
What a massive assumption we are for the working class of all races (white included) you see that read it again and again and again and again and again and again then that times 10!! its capitalism fault as i pointed out in my banned Zig Forums tread that the immigration crisis is happening…
I can understand it but I don't understand why it's a project worth pursuing. Why in face of global warming and capitalism does anybody need to devote time and effort to making sure brown people and white people don't mix? It's stupid, it's reactionary id-pol meant to distract from the real issues.
Without government forces paid for by capitalistic youknowwhos there wouldn't be mass migration/mixing to begin with. Some on here are the ones who are ideologically obsessed with it.
If mass migration is just one symptom of the problem of Capitalism why focus all your time and effort on it? Why not focus on the core issue instead of focusing your ire on other workers who are suffering even more than your are? Why not build solidarity with them and get their help to destroy the system?
so the world isn't actually populated by white liberals, this can be hard to understand for liberal white supremacists who think it. there are more religions than christianity and western atheism, and there are differences between religions that are irreconcilable. there are more cultures than liberalism with beliefs in women's rights, gay rights, abortion, agnosticism/atheism, science etc. the question is not "would people get along and cooperate?" the question is "what do we want our country and culture to be?"
there are different people on the planet that have different views about things, radically different. there are people that think women shouldn't leave the house. not just individuals, but whole cultures where this is the accepted and promoted gender role. there is no question of it. women are mothers. that's about it. can they work? sure. but will their primary role every NOT be motherhood? no. never. and there are vast portions of this earth where equating men and women would get you laughed at.
and so the question isn't, "can you get along with such people?" because of course you can (if you're a dude *cough*). the question is, do you want your country populated by people that think that? do you want your culture to become that? culture arises from the people, and in a democracy so do the laws. if you change the people, then over time you change the culture and the laws. if you let your country become majority non-european, you are going to have non-european culture and laws. if you let your country become majority muslim, you are going to have muslim culture and laws.
this is why people are nationalistic. they want to preserve their culture and laws, and they recognize that such things arise from the people that uphold them, and so they want to preserve those people's majority. the idea that if germany became majority muslim then homosexuality wouldn't be intensely discouraged if not outright illegal is a pipe dream. again, it is liberal white supremacy: you think the people of the world are just like you (how could they not be? you're so rational and intelligent and…well…superior to anyone who doesn't think like you. of course everyone is a white western liberal inside). because of this, you think the people of the world are interchangeable for one another, and so if you replace the population of europe through high immigration and birthrates with people who are non-european, it's all good. they will still have white liberal culture and laws cause we're all the same, right?
this might be the most disingenous phrase so far, since you have no intention of "letting" anyone be anything
what? what exactly do you think we want?
The government doesn't control the economic system, it's the other way around.
The Western governments as they stand tend to just be arenas for different sections of the capitalist system to compete for extra spoils.
What regulations could you impose which wouldn't be chipped away at over time, as has happened in America? Even in places like China they've ended up dominated by global capitalism due to allowing certain levels of economic competition in certain areas earlier on.
I'm pretty sure I literally said we're different multiple times over and over again. My question was what is the difference that is so fundamental it can't be changed? And now you've giving me stuff about women rights and LGBT rights or whatever. The thing is the West used to be just as bad on all these issues. Being gay was pretty much illegal 60 years ago in the West. Women weren't allowed to work, women weren't allowed to vote. They we're treated just as badly here as they were in other places. So if we can change our minds why can't they? Especially when they move to places were these positions are already the norm.
But that's not what's happening, that's not what I'm talking about. If you took the population of Germany and swapped everyone out for a Saudi then yeah sure it would probably look exactly like Saudi Arabia. But what is happening is people are slowly moving in. Islam isn't going to make up the majority of any European country in this century or the next (except for Albania or Bosnia which were already Muslim). It's not a replacement it's a fusion of cultures and ethnicities. Something that has happened before hundreds of times without causing any serious issues.
I was responding to you talking about "cooperation and peaceful co-existence" by saying that that isn't the point, but the culture and laws are.
being gay is LITERALLY illegal TODAY in many cultures that you seem to not take issue with. and they show no where near the remorse or trend to change as the west
again, you're equating our past with their present. it's not "as they were in other places" it is AS THEY ARE in other places.
probably because our cultures are different. again, I know this is hard to understand, but the rest of the planet wasn't raised on the bread and butter of the enlightenment. reason and compromise and progress and such aren't as fetishized around the world as they are in the West. for a lot of countries and cultures, there are huge aspects of life you simply do not question, such as the role of women or the relationship with authority and family or God. I know this is hard to imagine for a westerner, but there are cultures that are not western and DON'T WANT TO BE WESTERN. It's hard to grasp I know.
Yeah, except norms change, and they change with the people. Like I said, culture and laws arise from the people. If the people change, the culture and the laws change.
yes, it's happening slowly, but it is happening. birthrates are also a factor.
if Europeans maintain a birth rate in the low 1.4-8 per woman then by simple mathematics you're going to have an almost 50% reduction in the native population in the space of a couple of generations. if non-europeans maintain their birth rate in the 3-5 range (which is cultural based on gender roles, contraception, and sexuality, not economics) then you are going to have an almost 300% increase in the foreign population in the space of a couple of generations. extrapolating out into the future indefinitely is dodgy, but a couple generations is not. even if foreign births normalized down to 2-3, given this major population explosion you would still have replacement in the space of one to two centuries. if the majority of these foreign born are muslim, then you will quickly have a muslim majority in Europe. "This century of the next" is just 180 years. that might seem like a really long time but it isn't at all. it's going to pass incredibly swiftly. and even if it was 200 or 300 years, given the current trends of immigration, birth, and culture, it is going to happen. it is going to be maintained. Non-europeans don't hate their own cultures and ethnicities the same way Europeans do. they maintain them. and so can we. because non-Europeans are not Europeans. they don't think act or vote like we do. culture is more than just food and music. and ethnicity is more than just melanin content.
I do know this, and I do take issue with it. This isn't about the current state of the Middle East. This is about if people from other cultures can change their minds and or assimilate into other cultures.
See this is kind of an answer to the question at hand. But unfortunately it's not a good one. Countries which weren't raised on enlightenment values have accepted human rights as a cornerstone of their society. South Africa, Japan and South Korea are pretty good examples.
Pretty much every demographic expert disagrees but okay sure. All the white people will die off and Muslims will breed like rabbits until the heat death of the universe.
What are you basing this on? African societies have changed dramatically over the last hundred years. Same goes for China or any other culture. It's not an argument based in historical reality.
"letting" people do this or that is generally bullshit when talking about politics
politics and society in general is all about forcing people to act in the way you want them to act
I mean seriously, what exact policies do you want to enact to "let europeans be europeans"? you're talking in generalities because you know that it means racial laws and shit. or will you be some kind of "humane" racist?
the inscrutable oriental and the savage afrikan