How many % of the population are LGBT?
BadMouse rips apart the CPGB-ML because of IdPol
Brayden Jones
Caleb Barnes
I take a contrarian position for Zig Forums in that I think one reason the left went into decline (well, there were many reasons) is that identity and class diverged quite dramatically, with the former moving over to the liberals and class remaining the arena of cobweb-filled Trot attics. This has been coming back together however and the left in developed countries is more of a thing now than any point in my lifetime, and probably even my boomer dad's lifetime or since he was a kid a half-century ago. This is happening as idpol is apparently "worse than ever" which I hear around these parts. But it happened because Marxists started reintroducing Marxist ideas into feminism and so on.
Probably not, and Juche stans are a little bizarre, but I'm looking around and I do not appear to live in the DPRK. The worst LARPers in my view are people who try to emulate the social values of 1980s East Germany or whatever.
Who gives a shit.
Nicholas Morales
So, pro-LGBTQ+ rights then? Because that's what the SED promoted in the 80s.
Mason Hall
Anyways, CPGB-ML, whatever… "cultural right-wing" politics should be opposed as the trash that it is. Into the garbage bin you go, and I'm terribly sorry that I have to toss you into this bin, but I'm afraid you've left me with no other option. What the left needs is a sense of discipline, duty, sacrifice, collective subordination and honor – which I don't think are inherently right-wing concepts.
If you want to see what the alt-right does, if you're so keen to emulate them, it's to look at the neo-Nazis in the U.S. at Charlottesville. Contrast all the blustering, threats, "Black Lives Splatter," etc. with the weepy denials and buck-passing that resulted after just one person was killed. That's cultural right-wing cowardice with no sense of discipline, duty, sacrifice, collective subordination or honor. In fact, they are undisciplined, are unwilling to take real risks, and do not back each up and they have no fucking Klingon honor. And on the contrary it was the left exercising these virtues that stopped them including a willingness to hold one's ground and sacrifice, such as the woman who was willing to sacrifice her life.
Okay I stand corrected. That's great!
Parker Foster
I mean its a simple tactical decision if some weird looking trans person in the front of the demonstration alienates 10 potential converts (and i guarantee you that they do) then why still pander to this subgroup? What i'm saying is that i simply don't see how their struggle is in any way connected to my struggle, the fight for communism. The way i see it, they are an objective hindrance and one of the major problems of the left rn is that its basically hijacked by the LGBT Community. These people do everything they can to convince me that i need them… but more and more i dont think so.
Kayden Walker
The problem is the radical left keeps quite literally ripping itself apart over an issue that affects 0,01% of the population. Is the equivalent of discussing whether or not students or oriental studies are bourgeois or not, completely ridiculous
Justin Reyes
I suppose the way I see it, if you're willing to dump socially undesirable people just like that then you're not a communist.
Ethan Hall
There are no tactical decisions on the liberation of the proletariat. There is complete social liberation or there is revisionism and caving to social reactionaries
Matthew Mitchell
Exactly. Moreover the left keeps alienating like half of the population by pandering to a fraction of a percentage of it.
I mean theres socialism which means common ownership over the means of production and central planning of production. This is the system that will make life better for me and 95% of people on this planet. And yeah if i have to disregard 1 random percent to get there why not. Their liberation is going to become much easier under socialism anyways so…
Kayden Carter
Maybe they also forgot that DPRK has not cancelled CPGB-ML and even sends their UK ambassador to meet with them and give speeches on certain occasions.
They decriminalized homosexuality before the West did. Maybe Albania would be a better example.