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Jewish, but he's a wild west Jew who mostly keeps his nose out of other people's business as far as I know. I've worked with a few different guys out west who came from Jewish families, some of them were a bit money hungry and degenerate, but for most part weren't as bad as New York or Israeli Jews.

How do you know that? I mean apart from your jewdar reading. Do you have broofs?

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I'm with dubsman here, what are you basing this on? He looks like a goy to me, nothing really obvious like curled hair or the nose. He's also named Paul, which is a New Testament name.

He looks a lot like internet daddy to me. Jordon Peterson

I agree with your assessment, and that's the thing - every old post involving a Springfield blowing up is either missing half the equation or has some sort of sketchy shit involved where someone failed along the line.
One discussion involved a rifle with a new production barrel giving way and banana peeling from the receiver(with no damage to the receiver or breechblock). Others involved secondhand shit from the range where they saw holes blown into the ceiling from a kaboom, or that they know a guy who knows a guy related to a guy who does work on guns who heard from a customer that his cousin blew up a gun that looked like a pristine Trapdoor Springfield with Remington 405gr out of the box.
It's either this kind of shit or terrible reloads, but even then I read what a guy did on off-hand suggestion; he loaded a portion of the case with smokeless powder and filled the rest with black powder which is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of and fired it almost regularly out of his Trapdoor Springfield while it seized falling block and rolling block actions belonging to his friends. It wasn't until he got into actual loading that he realized how stupid it was.


There it goes again!
But yeah, it's mainly the "Don't use smokeless or jacketed ammunition" thing that started my investigation. I wanted to see pictures, because it's so obvious, right? Should be all over the internet, even past examples, but there's next to nothing.
Apparently someone did a legitimate torture test where they went from mild loadings all the way to Bullseye and only with an overcharge did they pop it. All that's scattered to the winds because of pre-archive internet failing us again, however.

If I recall with jacketed ammunition with blackpowder is the barrel isn't hard nickel-steel and is made for softer lead bullets. Also something to do with BP fouling getting stuck beneath copper fouling.

Nobody who's relegating themselves to black powder should not use jacketed projectiles, I agree. That leads to all sorts of problems in the long run.
However when talking barrel wear with jacketed projectiles - you're talking thousands of rounds fired in succession before the copper wears down the steel in any meaningful way. The barrel's not made of butter and it will not warp before your eyes only because it does not have added protection. The barrels may have been made with softer bullets in mind, but they are very much retard-proof due to the clients involved in their production.

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I'd still rather not add unnecessary wear to my guns, especially if they're older like my 71/84. If I recall the brits found metfords to burn out after 5k rounds. Its like redlining a car, why do it when you're gonna have to fix it at a later point.

Using a copper jacketed round in a steel barrel is not akin to redlining a car - redlining a car is more what I'm looking for in that someone's using stupidly hot commercial ammunition in an antique as a form of proofing or testing.

My original conundrum was finding any examples of a Trapdoor Springfield, untampered with and in average shooting condition, that have been blown up through either standard use or abuse through +P roundsbecause let's face it, .45-70 pressures have been consistent with its black powder loadings until theoretically stronger guns were made and gave way to overpressure rounds.
The only thing I can find that's even close to relevant are people tampering with the rifle, otherwise firing an already unsafe rifle without prior inspection, or people citing the Marlin 1895 Guide Gun exploding. The only cases of someone proverbially "redlining" a Trapdoor Springfield includes a set of articles lost to the internet and an account of someone essentially loading pipebombs through faulty advice.